Major Update Concept/Pitch - "Call of Mahabharata" - The Indian Nation & Ground Tree

India is already is a sub for Briain, it’s been confirmed like 1,000 times already

Yes exactly bro, that’s what they will probably do

"Much like South African vehicles, Indian vehicles will be introduced into the British tree. "

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I sure hope they stay true to their word, I understand that the Canadian Skink is already in Britain but to see it being added for USA might not bode well for the future of Canadian vehicles, and as such I honestly would rather all Indian-modified Russian vehicles go to Britain rather than the USSR tree.

DRDO’s NGMBT currently under development:


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Two different designs, either crew housed underneath crew-less turret, with turret hatches, or housed entirely in the front of the hull to allow for significantly more gun elevation.

Some of the plans for a dual-flow autoloader:



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Welcome back Conqueror

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More like: If the Conqueror and Armata had a child

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Gross, they missed the chance in putting all the crew in a safe compartment, instead they took the easy route and put the gunner under the turret.

What’s the point of keeping the carousel autoloader when you have bustle autoloader? I mean they could have stored extra ammunition in a separate compartment.

What if you make its start at rank IV (just like Israel), and you need to have rank III british vehicles to play this nation. To avoid that whole 3 ranks of copy paste from britons.

The best place I can think up for Indian vehicle is israel tree.British tree doesn’t have enough space for another huge sub tree.while israel has lots of space but only has limited choices of sub trees.
India is one of biggest weapon buyers of Israel,and they have common enemies.

Gaijin has confirmed, India is already a sub tree for Britain and the fact that more vehicles are set to come.

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Decisions can be changed. Till now there are limited vehicles implemented in the British tree and given the number of unique vehicles with India I think putting it in as a subtree of a full nation would mean that a lot of the vehicles will not be implemented in the game.

Scenario would be such that at the top there would be more Indian vehicles in the tree than the actual British vehicles.

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I know it’s been said a few times before but:

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Don’t know the rationale behind the decision.
Since all the Indian Tank platforms require ATGM firing capability … maybe different storage compartments for longer darts (bustle) and ATGMs (carousel)?

edit : hmm … recalled that Redeffect also covered on the topic for some reason and has a different opinion :

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There is nothing to see here… RedEffect has basically jumped the gun and completely copy pasted a discussion thread of an indian defence forum in his video. The documents shown for the FRCV are not at all representative of what the actual tank is going to look like.

All of these are the ideas being thrown by DRDO researchers on what can be the possible systems in the tank and discussing them with the Army. Based on these inputs the army has come out with its requirements which include FRCV to have a 4 man crew along with autoloader which automatically removes the dual carousel system from development. Even the conqueror like tank design was just a representation of what the future tank design could be.

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ok … not discussing what might end up in the FRCV project … but instead finding the rationale behind a design choice. The design’s there with a purpose, right?
If it ends up in a platform or not is a separate discussion.
Like Burlak had dual flow coz, the turret was to be mated to existing hulls. The existing hulls had the older carousel which limited the length of darts. Bustle allows longer darts. But a smaller bustle restricts the total amount of rounds carried. (Similar to Leo 2s/Leclercs having extra ammo in hull.)
So, retaining the carousel loader and implementing dual flow, alleviates the issues.
Similarly, what might be the reason behind a bespoke dual flow system? If the new system is meant to be an upgrade for the huge Bhisma fleet. Makes sense à la Burlak 2.0
But for an entirely new MBT? That’s where the head scratching comes.
Coz every professional design has a reason behind it and a justification to support it. Especially if it’s going for a patent.

As I see it, this patent rather solves the issue of reloading the bustle storage in Leopard and Leclerc which should have a loader to reload it. Now that the tank design is moving toward a crew that is entirely separated from the turret, it is necessary to have a system that can access all the ammo stored in the tank and without a loader you would also need to have some sort of system identifying the type of ammunition being loaded in the barrel which I think can be done much better with the carousal based autoloaders.

Moreover, in the patent they state that they wanted to build a system that could reload the gun at any angle required as most of the current systems involve some kind of restriction to reload a gun by the autoloader.

You can find more in this patent link

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That’s a great idea and I would personally suggest an Indian nation and Asean sub tree together put into one. As china and Asean don’t get along so India and Asean would be a perfect fit together.

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