Major Update “Air Superiority” - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 4)

will su-27 get a nice skin?

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Yeah I kinda feel if we are already “what if”-ing a M4K in combat Gaijin should also a “what if” non air show camo for it. Something more operational. Probably close to what the M2K uses, yeah.

I would expect camo’s to come for the live patch or in the weekly updates after it

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We’ll get camos theres almost never camos in the dev

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Gaijin’s protection table taken from this post. Take a look if you want to see some very weird values xD

There’s no way it didn’t, one of the most Iconic jets if the late would war, but the J-11 on the other hand, might only see 1 or 2 skins, as China really never seemed to put a lot of effort into painting them anything other than light grey or white

This is the latest bug report regarding not only M1A2 SEPv2’s armor, but also M1A2 SEP’s, work of @WaretaGarasu :

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jh4806nWWEYT

This report includes information used on earlier reports plus additional one and is the most recent; hopefully, we are slowly achieving progress in getting past Gaijin’s nonsensical filters and “reasoning” and we will manage to get something resembling more a actual M1A2 SEP and SEPv2 than… whatever we currently have!

Make sure to share and press the “I have the same issue!” button for further pressure.

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According to this table, Leopard 2A7V is meant to have worse armor than Strv 122 (670 vs 750), as well as worse mantlet…

What in the actual hell!? It should be the same, if not higher on 2A7V!

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Gaijiggles at it again

Yep, weaker hull when the 2A7V was made to bring the hull protection on par with the turret. The gun mantlet is also >100mm weaker for no apparent reason haha. The Leclerc S2 has 5mm better hull armour than the S1 and S21 and many more examples. These values are extremely hilarious to me especially because this table has seemingly been forgotten for the last 3 years xD

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Also many values are fake.

It claims that the Leopard 2s have 380-545mm KE mantlets… yet even M26 Pershing’s 90mm M304 APCR can pen any Leopard 2’s mantlet.

“380-545mm KE” my ass.

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The 2A7V is worse then the 122As armor?

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Not in the dev server as of now (2A7V and 122 got the same values); but, according to that official datasheet, it’s meant to be worse, yes. So God knows what awaits for the Live version…

Strange it should match the B PLSS and A but be worse then B+

If some WTLive god can work on it, sure there is a lot of really cool French skin that could come

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Also simply putting M2K skin on a bigger sized one :p

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So when I pull an on-topic Q&A answer from 2020 it 's " too old " and " probably not relevant ", but a spreadsheet which has been demonstrably superseded in the same timeframe is suddenly worthy of discussion here ?

The spreadsheet is still being updated. You can find values for all new MBTs in it.

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I find it funny how both M1, 1979’s first American tank to sport the earliest form of western composite armor, and M1A2 SEPv2, America’s workhorse tank by 2023 since 2007 and considered one of the greatest and most advanced tanks in active duty and service, are listed as sharing the exact same hull armor.

Like… does no one at Gaijin ever look at that and question whether it even makes the slightliest bit of sense…?

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Some hilarious values here for a lot of tank which in game meet none of the values stated on there graph 😂

It should have 2 DU inserts by Sep v2 I think right