Major Update “Air Superiority” - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 3)

Okay, so you saying Italy should be completely untouched for the next full calendar year? We lookin for love shared equally. Is there something wrong in trying to add stuff across the board? It doesn’t even need to be the next gen tech, I’m simply looking for things that would fill some holes in the SPAA. Nicho a wiki mod has made a wonderful suggestion of SPAA for Italy. Also kind of makes the game a bit unbalanced if one or two nations get the next tier and then for the rest to not have anything for a year or so.

Yeah, and they still have modes where they go searching in a prescribed area. They should make it so that all we have to do is turn off radar and move then to dodge them, because that’s all you have to do in real life.

I don’t really care what anyone’s field manual suggests, the HARM, at least in the first two generations was mostly designed to target fixed SAM sites. S-300’s not Buk’s and Osa’s.

Nah.
All countries have better CAS than Su-25T, including Sweden; Soviets have better CAS of Mig-27K.
And SMT is beaten by USA, Germany, Japan, China, Italy, France, and Israel.
Britain & Sweden will be added to that list this major update.

Su-27 if added will be an improvement, but its radar is allegedly worse than Mig-29 9.13’s radar.

and that, wouldnt be entirely accurate, but could be C&Ped over to the Tornados in the short term

Show me a CAS that is better then SU-25s in Italy please.

i didnt say that, but if you overall look at the last year, italy was one of the main stars. The only thing realy needs currently is a SAM SPAA, besides the rank 8 vehicle everyone will be getting now

Yeah and that need to have to aim for certain spots while being able to point and click on 70% of the area of other MBTs to kill them, combined with good mobility and some slightly uncommon funny damage model moments makes the BVM and Strv 122s the most meta vehicles.

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Im sorry but we do not have a better CAS then the Su-25.

CR2 is sorry state for top tier MBT Morvran can you list like all the issues with including the TESs ERA

Not much work needed for that, since we can already turn off our SPAA 's radar 's … not to mention the proliferation of silent IRST locks for those of us who " need " it …

what part of the turret is weak as if you say breach block then sure but tha is a weak spot on all tanks

Most who play the 14’s don’t even soft lock in TWS as to not give an RWR ping till pitbull, with the 54 they don’t play like how you are describing…they hard lock, fire 4 or 6 and RTB. Plus the 54 has very little pull, now if we get the 120 and 77 then yes I 100% agree…but again will most just play on the deck or will we see a change in how people play???

When Pantsir prevents any CAS, Su-25/39 are always superior.

In A2A, I wouldnt count on Britain ever being competitive. Its against the ToS. So Sweden would be nerfed too if we have the same aircraft

Turret ring i guess can kill if your lucky with L27A1
Volumetric will screw you though
and driver view but same thing volumetric will screw you

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The Su-25T/TM/BM is VASTLY superior to the AJS37.

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Well… ALARM modeled right would be hard to dodge (it would deploy a parachute and loiter, waiting for the radars to be switched back on)

“ALARM is a fire-and-forget system, with an added loiter capability. In loiter mode, ALARM will, when launched, climb to an altitude of 13,000 metres (43,000 ft). If the target radar shuts down, the missile will deploy a parachute and descend slowly until the radar lights up. The missile will then fire a secondary motor to attack the target.”

But that I think is the greater impact of HARM. It would force SPAA to be smart about radar, especially if we see longer range SAM systems in the coming updates. You might have long range SAM, but is someone about with a HARM?

Personally, I want them in SB. I have a personal vendetta vs the Radar guided SPAA in that gamemode

Tornado IDS: Can’t be hit by any SPAA, has 4x GBUs.
AV-8B+: Has a ton of armament to deal with SPAA & tanks alike.

@_Renzo
Yeah, you have to aim for an area slightly larger than the Abrams turret ring to kill the BVM’s turret.
People aren’t complaining about how OP Abrams turret is despite being stronger.

@XSpaz1NOuTX
F-16s, F-14B, Mig-27K, all Tornado IDSs, JH-7, Mirage 2000, Viggen AJS are all superior to Su-25T.

@Tictaculer
The entire turret: DM33 @ 2km.

@Morvran
Pantsir can’t kill any CAS that’s going above mach 0.9. There’s a reason I’ve spawned over 100 times in top CAS/fighters this year and only died once when I intentionally slowed down to 600kph on Breslau.

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Virtually the entire visible part of the roof. It’s quite penetrable by even 10.0 MBT rounds.

I don’t think so. N001 Mech is better than N019 Saphir. Larger antenna so better range. Going to be very similar though.

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That wont kill it though, at most it will disable the breach

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