Major Update “Air Superiority” - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 3)

The thing about late fourth gen and 4.5th gen for America (and a few others) is that there isn’t anything they can get after the AIM-9M and equivalents until things like the AIM-9X and IRIS-T, and this shouldn’t be used as a reason for why other nations can’t get better missiles.

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How does it feel knowing that China has the cooler Su-27?

calling the current best IR missile “not even good” is incredibly gluttonous, grow up

part 4 here we go

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He wasnt speaking about Aim-9m

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having used both I think the R-73 is better

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There should be no laser guided munitions. Only mavericks, dumb rockets and bombs.

Wake me up when the Abrams can’t reverse. Lmao.

Ah… matrix SPAA. So nice.

Relikt ERA, best in the world. Happens when a country isn’t focused on anti-chemical protection for LIC.

If it ain’t A3 or DM53 it wasn’t even close to begin with.

In my dreams. Hasn’t been that good since the first dev server for Apex and you know it.

I can’t deny it. Such a popular plane, I see them all the time. /s Wake me up (in about 12 days) when we get a missile bus like the F-14B with infinity flares. Seriously, look at Kikka, look at half the prototype Messerschmitt’s. The 141 isn’t first compromise plane. 4 Japanese pilots took a Power Point presentation from General Dynamics and suddenly we have an AJ. It’s common. Non-issue too, Yak-141 is mediocre.

What G-limiter? Physics have been suspended for all US mains now for 3 months. LMAO

Reminds me of the R-73 that never made it out of dev server hell without a 3000 post thread treaty signed by the US mains and a coerced AIM-9M addition. And we got a mediocre missile for it.

Is that anyone’s fault but the devs?

I think we might finally agree. I’d love to play the game you say exists.

I just saw this, and it’s a good correction. Not sure why people are whining about the J even more then. It has slightly better engines and a domestic missile that it will be stuck with probably until the F-2A. Good for Japan, they deserve something nice after being stuck with the AJ for a year.

I play China too! I’m just waiting for PL-8s lol.

Wake me up when we get the December 2022 version of the R-73, or shit, even a fixed T/ET seeker that doesn’t just go find the closest galaxy instead.

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Ok so i’ll be honest, i neither play the US or USSR on top air (i grinded the US a long time ago tho)

So i was playing a third nation, and basically we had to deal with :

  • Mig 21 bis vs phantoms, yikes, super balanced (phantoms would consistantly fail to kill enough migs, because the radars were quite poor, and once at the merge, it was basically over)
  • Mig 23s vs phantoms, let’s just say i already knew if the game was lost or not depending on who was on my side
  • F14 then arrived and gave an advantage, which lasted… one patch, after that the thing was food for the m2k, and france vs US match ups became quite regular at that time
  • Mig29 vs F16, which was one of the most balanced since ages. With Mig29 having a BVR advantage and f16 being a monster at dogfighting.
  • and now, well, 2 aircraft with similar amount of missiles, except one is more maneuverable and its missiles are better in every way.

Now i’m not going to say the US is suffering, it’s more about USSR being quite possibly handheld (Fox3s would have avoided the situation though, since AMRAAM vs R77 is a better match up than AIM7M vs R27ER…)

and f15C in 1978, so 10 years ?

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so basically you will squeal like a stuck pig until you get a missile that is a guaranteed kill no matter how poor your launch is? single nation mains say some really absurd nonsense

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Yeah they do deserve to be better but AAM-3 as of rn is highly overpowered.

Without AESA, yeah, I guess that’s right. Not a US plane guy.

I’ve learned a lot playing with more rear-aspect missiles about when to take a shot. I won’t deny that you need to line up a good shot. What kills me is that the IRCCM is not properly implemented into the game, so the damn missile flares away almost every time, and not anywhere to the same degree required to pray to RNGesus that you might be able to avoid the 9M. If it was at least a little more robust, or at least had a better FM, I’d be happier, and could compromise. As is it’s just a serviceable missile. It’s not some world-beater, the devs won’t let it be.

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maybe learn how to avoid AIM-9M? It’s relatively simple to avoid when you know that you need to keep flaring while making sharp turns to keep the seeker off and it will miss
however if an R-73 gets within 2km of you rear aspect it becomes a death sentence, no amount of flaring will get it off you

I’ve unironically seen better flare resistance out of a Magic 2/PL-7.

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magic 2 ECCM works the exact same way as R-73 in the code

Yeah. It’s a bummer when your FM bleeds so much speed, you never get to escape in time.

I really haven’t had that happen in my experience, respectfully. I miss the last dev server of Sons of Attila when the thing was basically a guaranteed kill on side-aspect.

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Me over here grateful for the Chally 3 (P) however, just waiting on the day the UK gets the AJAX or equivalent to make top tier diverse…

(Basically we reached time, when USSR tech stoped evolving, died and degraded. ) Thats why USSR TT receives “modern” vehicles

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Well…

The AJAX will be nice unless it gets gajined

("There no info on its amour so we have given it similar armour to M113 cause they clearly similar ")