Major Update “Air Superiority” - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 3)

no?

You have to be here just to troll atp tbh

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lol

Lets test at least 100 times
Do yoo know what is statistics?

I see the problem you replied to me talking about the Su-25 AFTER I started talking about the Kamov my mistake

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There’s no such thing as “best treated” because every tech tree gets attention and equipment that’s tied to real-life acquisition rates.
Japan got a temporary exception to a rule for F-16AJ.
Britain got an Indian produced T-90S.
Soviets have exclusively domestic stuff cause that’s all they need because they in real life did more projects.
If T-80BVM was OP I’d have a substantially higher KDR in it than its contemporaries… I don’t.
In-fact, it’s downright similar to the KDR of M1A2 & Challenger 2, and that’s with people not aiming for its turret weakspots.
If more people aimed for T-80BVM’s turret weakspots I’d have a lower KDR cause I play it the only effective way on CQC maps: Aggressively.
Because CQC maps nerf BVM’s capabilities as a medium range tank; one of the reasons most players prefer CQC to begin with is because it equalizes the tanks.

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ok lets do the same for t80s, then tell me about russian bias

Hmmm…Sweden and America are better at top tier, but the teams suck (at least in the North America server).

Leopard 2s (Strv 122)>T-80/72
CV90120>2S25M
CV940 BILL>2S38
Abrams SEP>T-80U/T-72B3
F-16C>MiG 29SMT/Su-39

Russian advantages at the BR are the Pantsir and helicopters

Just the American players in my experience the Swedish players are typically very good

Hehe. I did this 20 times with someone once, and only not exploded 2 times when I was the BVM test subject.
He not exploded once in Leopard 2, but he also didn’t have a shielded ammo area that may or may not help with lowering ammo explode chance… hmmmm…
That’s a hypothesis to test.

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Man this waiting is brutal when this patch gives so many anticipated things.

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Speaking of which I was thinking about it what if the aircraft is the Atlas Cheeta idk if its a fan favorite but im not sure

After reading up on it I really want it now

You didnt specify version
Leos < bvm equal 72b3

Agree

Never. APSFDS are better.

Sep has 11.3 armor, and thermal worse than 72b3. Total disagree. Shell is better on numbers, but its useless

SMT has KH-29 and FnF bombs. Everything is better than maverics. Su-39 is 11.3 with the hugest loadout. Lets look at 11.0-11.3 USA. Hmm, F4e with 4 agm-62…

Never stop kope!

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anythin new in the last 500 messages?

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And the F-4E is more survivable cause it can go fast enough to stay out of lethal range of SPAA.

M1A2 SEP has gen 2 thermals same as B3, but with CITV, so superior to T-72B3.
M1A2 SEP has more overall armor while being substantially faster.

I never said it was op though. I only ever claimed it was the most meta vehicle together with the Strv 122s, although I would consider the latter 2 in turn be more meta than the BVM.

The armor and mobility combination is what makes them the most meta vehicles.

This is also an interesting discussion because the SEPv2 will not solve this problem for the US. With only 520-550mm vs KE it won’t really do much better than the SEPv1 within 700-1000 meter range.

But I digress, like I said it was never op, and I have also said numerous times in the past that the ammo rack doing funny things in the past is way overstated here and on reddit.

However I will keep it in the top 3 meta tanks, and I’m still waiting on that solid proof for soviet players being better.

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Nope

I respect your opinions.
All I want is for you to respect me back.
Everyone has unique viewpoints based on the tactics they learned to use, and the contexts behind total battles.
I’ll always listen to you & all other players.

And I of course apologize that I didn’t portray the fact that BVM is good enough for 11.7 in my viewpoint.

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Isnt 72b3 use the same thermal as bvm, which is 3gen?

Not at this time.