M829A4:The most powerful bullet against the Russian multi-layer Era

Relikt, nizh and pretty much every other KE focused era becomes pretty much useless against kinetics(and tandem atgms) on a side and top profile, this is on top of the fairly understood counter mechanisms, at the absolute least every modern western armor package that I saw some protection data for offers complete protection against 25mm apfsds and that’s just what is made public through stanag, this is whilst offering much superior defenses against chemical munitions, especially when taking tandem era like Arat 2 into account, now we have no real knowledge on the true capabilities of western armor packages, but make no mistake they aren’t big heavy and expensive for fun.

And as a baseline the modeling in war thunder is absolutely abysmal.

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Or maybe it’s just a better solution.

Well if it has same effectivness but more complex and expensive it can’t be better solution.

Why would they ever perform the same.

Because expensive and complex doesn’t make it automaticly better.

Composites aren’t some new fad.

Camouflage and reverse gear is also nothing new but American army wasted 14 years on UCP ACU and RAF won’t give good reverse speed for tanks for entirety of Russian Federation existance.

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We’re not talking about the us alone here. You don’t see ariete or challenger running around in era

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Rip the XM8 and booker, forever missed.

Doesn’t Chally 2 Theatre Entry Standart includes ERA ?

I’ve seen T-90M taking a hit and surviving at some point

You have politically charged bias against Russia

Ironic coming from a person who only uses eastern sources and claims all western sources are propaganda.

I would send videos but last time i did that i got timeout because “politics” or whatever so im gonna leave this with no comment.

‘_PLA’ shouldve been a flag

RIP ROC, removed and will probably never come back due to garbage additions.

No and likely won´t be out there for many years to come.

So the best we can do right now is relying in US and Russian sources (namely, manufacturers of M829A3 and Relikt; ATK and Nii Stali) and strangely both corroborate each other regarding the Relikt being effective enough against M829A3.

Also there aren´t many simulations out there but also goes in line with whats expected:

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Those “simulation” are just misleading and nothing else

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If you say so. Nevertheless, its only a supporting argument. Main thing is that sources from both sides corroborate each other.

Speaking of bradley
M2A4 has reactive armor
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@Alan_Tovarishch the issue I’ve seen with the simulations is they hit at optimal angles. In this case the magic 68 degrees installation angle.
At real engagement ranges height differences and ballistic drop from distance can reduce that angle. Even as much as 3 degrees can significantly impact ERA plate performance.

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