M6a1

Of course! I have played the tank and it is suitable in 4.7. This is MY post, I can say whatever.

Sadly for you spam post with basically zero arguments dont help for BR changes…

If the others can do well in 5.0 this can do the same too, even few ultra biased fanboys try at any cost keep his low BR.

The KV-85 can go up to 5.0 when the Panther D goes up to 6.0, fair is fair after all

Very funny :D :D :D

BRs are based on efficency.
The Panther Ds armor allows it to survive getting shot from the front, making it possible to retaliate.
But what when you just need to shoot a tank? The slow traverse greatly reduces the tanks ability to quickly fire at targets or utilize brawling or flanking tactics.

Vehicles have a variety of attributes and being the best in one or two categories doesn’t mean much when others are much worse.
Likewise, underperforming in a category compared to vehicles of the BR range has no bearing without examining the strenghts.

Every vehicle can do well in hands of pro players, KV-85 just does t match the KV-1C 756r. So it shouldnt be in same br

The Shermans all have slow reverse and much worse armor. They also have worse pen and only slightly better explosive filler.

Your argument is silly.

Stabilizer, but i agree the panthers are too good for their tier.

The stabilizer on the Shermans does not equate to the mobility of the Panther nor its firepower.

Arguing that the Panther’s BR range is justified on performance is asinine.

The Panther’s BR range is justified because of the quality of players that play Germany.

And what ‘quality’ of players is that exactly?

Probably the players who managed to get you in your M6A1 no doubt… Your argument is silly, and your assertions are asinine…

Bro totally ignored what I said

I know what you said, I’m reiterating that the user’s original argument was asinine as he’s stating BR is justified through performance but fails to reconcile the Panther’s superior performance at its BR.

The M6A1’s performance is at best equal to medium tanks of its BR range. It is not an effective heavy tank. That’s why its BR should be dropped to 4.7 alongside the benefits of a fuller 4.7 lineup for American players that want to stay at that BR range.

tldr Reasons for moving the M6A1 are both performance and for the benefit of having a full lineup

Panther is not justified in its placement for performance reasons but is for having a more full lineup

He’s talking about the Panther D and that he thinks that it should be 6.0 because it’s better than any 76mm Sherman…

Of course it does. A stabilized 76mm with 5.9s reload equals a much higher RoF.
You can shoot faster and already have a faster reloading gun than other mediums.
Which greatly enhances your firepower over any Panther at the cost of having worse penetration.

And the Panther D doesn’t have better mobility than the M4A3. The Panther D wins when going straight and can reach speeds faster than 42kph of the M4A3 but the M4A3 has better acceleration so it will win when climbing hills or just manuvering in cities. While the other Panthers have worse mobility than the D.

They have better reverse than Panthers…

Completely off-topic but this makes me want the reversible transmission M4E6 so badly.

Damn that 1 KM/H hits hard

Having to think while aiming versus lolpenning

The only legitimate negative to the Panther is its turret traverse.

I think the Panther D is fine at 5.3, Germany needs all the help it can get otherwise their win rates would be even lower than presently.

You brought up its performance “BRs are based on efficiency” which is a complete factual lie, the only thing that governs BR placement is Gaijin’s whim.

M6A1 should be 4.7 to allow America access to a lineup at that BR range, move the T1E1 to 5.3

The T1E1 should be remodeled to the 90mm version and put at 5.0.

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Make it two for the Panther A/G/F, which is nearly twice as slow as the M4A3.

You don’t need 190mm pen to go through the side of a tank. More than 50% of all tank kills are against unware opponents. If you’re fighting at ranges below 300m, the 76mm will be able to kill the same vehicles the Panther can but better.

So it’s not lolpenning more like lol the vehicle got away because I couldn’t put my gun on them in time.

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Which have powered turrets

You can turn to make your turret swing faster

Unnecessary and would necessitate an increase to 5.7 I’d much rather use it at 5.3 as is