M6a1

No, I have not. In fact I’ve implied several times that the “job” of APCR is to go through thick, flat armor. The only case of an APCBC round doing this “job” better than APCR is with the 100 mm BR-412P APCR and BR-412D APCBC, since Gaijin’s calculator actually makes it so 412P has lower flat penetration that 412D.

My argument is that this job is so niche that it ends up not being useful, specially due the disadvantages that come with APCR. The only exceptions to APCR rounds that can be useful are the ones of the Jumbo 75, and the 90 mm M304, for the reasons I have stated.

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I just flagged your comment, lel. Maybe you should consider changing it or even stop being rude to everyone you’re talking to. /s

hummmm … ok ? Not really sure about what you think you’re doing but sure go ahead.

Are you try to say me how to play a tank when you never played before ???

Go and play it first.

Is comparable or even better than the German KV and M6 should be moved to 5.0 or bring back the others to 4.7.

  1. It’s a premium
  2. It’s not so unique that I can’t understand how it plays
  3. APCR is found on other tanks besides that tank and with less penetration, I’ve played with it on those tanks, I know how the round works and performs

That I will not concern, but KV-85 is NOT going to 5.0 period.

And??

You dont know how this tank perform, right now you only are extremly biased.

After read your post, looks like you dont have a idea how the APCR in KWK L/48 works.

Yes becuase you and only you can decide the BRs here, LMAO.

I disagree. The frontal armor is trolly, its got a good gun with great gun depression, and its overall pretty maneuverable. Yeah its an acquired taste, but I don’t think it needs to be downtiered.

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It’s uptiered currently. Previously it was at 4.7

That’s a suggestion for another tank… It’s 76 and 37 for this variant.

That quote, actually came from a simple google, and wouldn’t be hard for you to also find.

Yes, but since the T1E1/M6A2 90 was brought up, it seemed fitting to put that forum topic there, since it has better and more accurate information on these vehicles in general, such as the sources that talk about the armor of these vehicles.

It’s only been brought up because the guy is having trouble with it and people want to pick on discrepancies, rather than actually admit the reason that people are pointing to in here…

The 90, and even the 105, were only used for testing, the 76 and 37 were the actual basis.

You could suggest unlockable maingun mods to make the 90/105 a thing, but that’s nothing for this thread…

It won’t help the issue of the player dying, and ignoring the points put forth in here.

Oh I know. I’m just saying it’s fine as it is at 5.0.

Of course! I have played the tank and it is suitable in 4.7. This is MY post, I can say whatever.

Sadly for you spam post with basically zero arguments dont help for BR changes…

If the others can do well in 5.0 this can do the same too, even few ultra biased fanboys try at any cost keep his low BR.

The KV-85 can go up to 5.0 when the Panther D goes up to 6.0, fair is fair after all

Very funny :D :D :D

BRs are based on efficency.
The Panther Ds armor allows it to survive getting shot from the front, making it possible to retaliate.
But what when you just need to shoot a tank? The slow traverse greatly reduces the tanks ability to quickly fire at targets or utilize brawling or flanking tactics.

Vehicles have a variety of attributes and being the best in one or two categories doesn’t mean much when others are much worse.
Likewise, underperforming in a category compared to vehicles of the BR range has no bearing without examining the strenghts.

Every vehicle can do well in hands of pro players, KV-85 just does t match the KV-1C 756r. So it shouldnt be in same br

The Shermans all have slow reverse and much worse armor. They also have worse pen and only slightly better explosive filler.

Your argument is silly.

Stabilizer, but i agree the panthers are too good for their tier.