You are not taking my Hellcat Mk II from me. The number of battles it saved for me… I’m not giving it up.
- agree
- agree
- lets just agree to disagree then, i think it just muddies the game with the amount of copy paste it would bring
- did the Israelis modify the cheiftan at all?
We have the boomerang or typhoon, or even a beaufighter
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i think you replied to wrong person
and i agree, britain had a ton of their own ww2 planes they could get instead, even squadron specific copies of TT vehicles as premiums
no, was just a trial and they did want to buy them. lets just say Israel wasn’t as loved unquestionably as it is nowadays so we didn’t sell to them, we sold them to Iran instead (slightly modified but nothing super unique) I think they kept their test chief I’m not too sure though, however Israel liked the chieftain so much their made their own one, you will know it as Merkava.
well they already have the merkava dont they?
and imo, if its trialed and lost it goes to producer’s tree (in this case UK), or just not added if its the same as an existing variant already in that tree
if its considerably modified for that purpose then that complicates things though, like the possible US KF41 (XM30 entry from Rhienmetall) which is drastically different from a typical KF41
yes they have the merkava but a pure chieftain would give the Israelis a different tank, the poor guys have like two tanks for 70% of the tree.
well they had like 2 tanks for 70% of thier existence no?
and they really pushed those 2 tanks to the limit of modification
the 3.0 with no secondary weopons?
7.7s and a smaller bomb load.
A twin-engined strike aircraft?
Two have worse secondary loadout (and even worse MGs as well) and the other has the muli-engined problem(and still has the worse loadout). Yes, no, I’m sticking with the Hellcat, if it wasn’t for it and the LE Orla, coastal would still be a thorn in my side.
twelve 7.7s, that’s a hell of a lot of lead. and the bombs are pretty solid.
its pretty good for cas, 4 hispano 20mm, 6 browning 7.7s, a vickers K for rear gunner, 2 1000pdr and 2 500pdr bombs too and cand hold its own in air combat
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That’s the MK II. I don’t have it and it’s only around for a limited time.
I’ll take your word. I never found the Typhoons enjoyable.
Maybe in GRB, but not in laser AA naval, you want the small body of a fighter.
bring the Firebrand TF Mk IV then, 4x Hispanos with good ammo count, and bombs + torpedo
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I don’t enjoy quite a lot of vehicles in WT but they are still good
meh if youre using anything that isnt a wyvern or Sunderland in naval you’re making a mistake already.
Theres always firebrand too. I cant believe I skipped it as its quite the machine.
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I dont think having a reason helps any, In fact the tenuous links are the problem : )
+1 for a UK TT vehicle, but probably would be most suitable as Premium or Event in order to preserve the status of the M4A3(76)W in the US TT . Would be especially notable as the UK TT currently lacks any 5.7 vehicles.
Presumably the vehicle name should be Sherman IVAY, as Canada used British nomenclature?
Well, I heavily disagree with the premium and event idea. As this is the only 76mm Canadian Sherman to see combat, but it was also modified, making it not a 1-1 C&P of the US one (even if the only thing that has an effect for WT is the over 200 shells could bring).
Would be a good starting point in building of a 5.7 line up in the research tree or an addition to one after it started to be built with the addition of prototype Cents or something, for the UK tree.
Also the Japanese have this(their own M4A3(76)W): M4A3 (76) W (Japan) | War Thunder Wiki
Only for the WW2 Shermans. That name would be heavily incorrect for this vehicle (and the 76mm A2 used by Canada). As both post war/76mm Shermans used by Canada used the E8 name.
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Copy paste slop -1
Fair enough, I see the M4A2 (76) W was also used in larger numbers.
Japan is always something of a unique case, they lack so much equipment in some areas that adding vehicles like the A3 76 as Researchable is the only way to fill the tree.
On Premium/Researchable in the context of its potential addition to the UK TT, the A3 76 should be considered against current vehicles as well as potential competitors for the 5.7 line. Britain has a decent Rank III but zero vehicles at BR 5.7 right now, so perhaps the first 5.7 should be a Premium? Not sure if Gaijin has a policy for how to break into a new BR.
Comparing the A2 76 and A3 76, the A2 76 is clearly the main Canadian service 76 and should be Researchable on that basis, but I’d still put the A3 76 as a Premium in part due to the similarity. Obviously in a hypothetical Canadian or CANZAC TT the issue would be moot, this is about how to balance the A3 76’s placement in what is now (hopefully) becoming a more Commonwealth-based UK TT.
Well, yes, the M4A2 (76) W HVSS (called M4A2E8 in Canadian documents) was used in numbers by Canada; they were used only for training at home and in turn is unmodified. So apart from time, it’s really got nothing going for it.
Well, on the other hand, the M4A3E8 weren’t as numerous or used as long but were the primary tank of Canada during the Korean War, as they had changes as listed here:
My opinion is starting a BR with a premium is a quick way to doom it; it can only be stuff found outside the reasher tree.
Ideally they’d just copy the A2/A3 (76) folder to the UK tree, with the addition of some of the Indian Shermans in it as well (if they fit BR-wise). Allowing both and them some to be researchable.
So it comes down to:
A2E8: both the most used and longest used Sherman, but was never considered for the front line, and would be pure C&P for War Thunder but fits an existing line-up.
A3E8: Served as the tank Canada used during the Korean War, but was returned after it was over. Would need to have its internals remodelled, making it somewhat unique, but doesn’t fit an existing line-up.
(does pair perfectly with Prendergast’s Spitfire tho)
Damn, your mentioning of foldering the two of them just changed my mind entirely. That, along with the very valid point that while the A2 was more numerous, the A3 was in active combat in Korea.
The Extended / Reworked British Ground Forces Tech Tree by @ChieftainWarrior has plenty of 5.7 options, but still has the 4.7-6.3 gap between Churchill VII and Charioteer. The Heavy-to-Medium transition is already there, so why not fill it with both tanks in a folder? It even matches historically.
The order of the Churchills would need to change, but you can see what I mean.
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