good to know thx
Easy +1.
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Arguably one of the most iconic tanks of World War II, it should absolutely be added. +1!
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plus, its odd why its only the japanese tech tree
+1 for it being added in the US Ground forces Tree
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It’s… not?
The Japanese have an M4A3 (76) W HVSS, which is a different vehicle, and also one that is on the US tech tree.
i got the numbers confused then, its a common mistake
Ngl I did the same thing when I read this. Was kinda confused, especially when I saw a Sherman with a 75 and not a 76. I had to scroll back up to check if I had read it right. I had not XD
I definitely see this more likely to be 4.3 than 4.0. There’s a few reasons why.
The mobility difference between the M4A3 (76) and M4A2 (76) is pretty massive. Sure the M4A2 has higher top speed (47 vs 42 km/h), but top speed only matters if you can actually reach it, and the M4A3 has a massive advantage in acceleration due to the significantly more powerful engine (and slightly lower weight). For example, it takes around 13 seconds for the M4A3 (76) to reach 42 km/h, compared to the M4A2 (76)'s 20 seconds. This mobility difference would also carry on to the 75 mm versions of the M4A3 and M4A2.
Additionally, later Shermans had reinforced armor on the turret cheek, where the weakspot of the M4A2 is found.
From Sherman 75mm turrets :
The in game M4A2 should probably have a thickened turret cheek as it is also part of these late production Shermans (after all, it has the large driver and co-driver hatches), but it doesn’t. Nevertheless, the M4A3 would likely have this modeled.
Overall, potentially better armor and much better mobility makes this more likely to be 4.3 in my mind.
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If it where to go too br 4.3 (probably not seeing the vote) do you think it should have an add-on armour package like the m4a2?
+1, there’s one as a gate guardian at the slovene military museum and I really love it. Wish we get is soon
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Both BRs it should have at least add-on track armour if not the less common spaced armour package
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A +1 from me; the more Shermans there are, the better!
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+1 as tech tree vehicle, altough even with the improved mobility, I don’t think the puny 75 mm and poor reverse will make it a good 4.3, I think 4.0 is fine or removing APCR from M4A2 and putting it at 3.7
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+1 long overdue for an iconic American tank.
Also, it doesn’t make sense to me that the M4A2 is the main and latest 75-mm Sherman tank for the US ground tech tree in-game because it was only used by the US Marine Corps and other Allied powers as a part of the Lend-Lease.
The M4A3 was precisely well-liked by the American tank crew in the US Army because of its valuable reliability and survivability, thanks to the gasoline-fueled Ford GAA V8, large-hatch mechanism, and wet ammunition stowage with less chance of fire and ammo detonation (if that’s modeled already). By the later stages of World War II, the M4A3(75)W was already the most common tank in the American armored divisions and independent tank battalions. So, I would like to see this M4A3 deserves its proper representation in War Thunder.
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Wet ammo stowage did lower the burn rates of M4 Sherman tanks that had it installed, but from what ive heard, the soviets tested the wet ammo stowage mechanisms and found that the wet lining was actually only good for catching spall, but failed at actually stopping ammunition fires.
the actual cause for lowering the burn rates was the better placement of the bins. with them being primarily on the hull floor, as opposed to the sponsons.
Though if the results of the soviet tests are to be considered accurate, then surely we should get Wet Stowage bin modules that act like these newly added spall liners right? eating spall for a single shot and then just being destroyed.
Agree. The placement actually matters a lot, so that sounds about right.
Yep, the wetness of the bins was never found to have any effect and wet racks were drained post-war
Also, I’ve heard that Allied tank crews sometimes loaded more ammunition into their tanks than they were meant to carry, meaning this extra ammo was just laying in the open, without protection from armoured bins.
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+1 ive always enjoyed the m4a3 (105) and i think it would be nice to have the 75 version
The one Sherman I want the most.
Madness that the US Army’s preferred and most used Sherman variant isn’t present ingame.
Ideally it’ll have the high-bustle turret, vision cupola, loader’s hatch, thickened turret (where gunner is), M34A1 mantlet, no applique, and no sand shields. T48 or T54E1 rubber chevron tracks too.
Stick it in a folder after M4A2 75, and it’d just be perfection. +1
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