M48 Marksman - Patton goes birb hunting

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TL;DR: M48A5 with Marksman turret.

Hello, and welcome to my suggestion. Today I would like to present one of the last members of the Marksman family, but this time, it has it ties to the continent across the ocean.

Introducing

M48 Marksman


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History

Following a worldwide market survey into the type of air defence system required to protect armoured and mechanised formations and units from the low-level fighter ground attack aircraft and the pop-up helicopter threat, in 1983 the Marconi Command and Control Systems commenced development of a prototype of the Marksman twin 35 mm anti-aircraft turret. The principal feature of the Marksman gun turret was that it was a completely self-contained turret, which can be fitted to any Main Battle Tank hull or large Armoured Personnel Carrier hull without modification. The first prototype was completed in 1984
with a turret of mild steel, while the second, fully armoured and equipped to production standard, was completed in 1985. Following the creation of the production standard turret, a series of tests, trials and demonstrations was carried out using a bunch of different tank hulls. M48A5 was one of the hulls used for tests and demonstrations. Fitting o this turret took place in 1986, followed by a series of trials. The turret failed to pick up interest of the British army, but was successfully sold to the Finnish army, where it was fitted into T-55 chassis.

Now its time to talk about the specifications.

General:

Engine: Diesel producing 750hp
Gearbox: Manual, 6 forward, 2 reverse
Suspension: Torsion bar
Max speed: 48km/h
Crew: 3 Driver, Gunner and Commander/Radar Operator
Protection:
Hull: Identical to M48A5
Turret: All around protection against 14.5 mm heavy machinegun and 155mm airburst
Horizontal limits: 360° rotation
Turret rotation speed: 90°/s
Vertical launcher limits: -10° +85°
Elevation speed: 60°/s
Stabilized: Yes, two-plane
10x 66mm smoke grenades
Radar:

Radar: Marconi S400.
Type: Symmetrical Parabolic antenna combine search and track radar
Band: IEEE: X/Ku NATO: I/J
Range: 12km search, 10km track
Tracking accuracy: <1mrad rms angle
Scan zone: 360°x15°
Scan rate: 60 rpm
IFF

Features

Multipathing solutions
Frequency agility
Monopulse
MTI
PRF stagger
Low sidelobes

Ability to cue turret in whole 360°

Gunner/Commander sight:

SAGEM Type VS 580-VISAA
Dual FOV: 5°/x10, 18°/x3
Integrated LRF in the gunner sight
Stabilized: Yes, Two-plane
Armament:

2 x 35mm Oerlikon KDA Autocannons
Ammunition:230xAA + 20xAPDS per gun
Shell types: 35x228
HEI
HEI-T
SAPHE-T
APDS-T

This sums up this suggestion. This vehicle has good protection, punchy guns and great reaction time. Combination of all those thing would make it a force to be reckoned with on the battlefield.

Pictures

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Sources

GEC-Marconi Marksman anti aircraft gun turret brochure
Marconi Command and Control Systems Marksman anti aircraft gun turret brochure
Marconi Radar Systems International 33
Oerlikon-Contraves 35mm x 228 Ammunition for the Automatic Cannon KD Series brochure
Janes LBDA 2003-2004
International Defense Review 6/1984

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Isn’t it the same as Magach Marksman - A cousin from the Middle East ?

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He Did It GIFs | Tenor

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a cartoon pirate is sitting at a table giving a thumbs up and saying `` well yes '' .

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perfect to fill the 8.3 spaa gap

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‎ >6th Marksman suggestion

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+1 I guess

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Obviously there are far too many Marksman vehicles to all go to Britain, but depending on public opinion I could see the following if every one were to be implemented:

In British tree:
Centurion Marksman: GB, 8.0 (Slow, No APDS)
Vickers Marksman: GB, 8.0 (Fast, No APDS, Foldered under Centurion)
Chieftain Marksman: GB, 8.3 (Slow, APDS)
Challenger 1 Marksman: GB, 8.3 (Fast APDS, Foldered under Chieftain)

In other trees (battle rating based upon combination of varying chassis types and APDS or no APDS is up for debate)
Leopard 1 Marksman: Germany
M48A5 Marksman: USA
Magach Marksman: Israel
Type 59 Marksman: China
M60 Marksman: Saudi Arabia
T-55AM: Finland (Also known as ItPsv 90)
T-55: Russia (It’s only fair if everyone else gets one lol)

And yes, this is a very cluttered and terrible idea that will be very unpopular with most people,
margesman

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They put this is on dam near everything, what didn’t they put this on. Either way, +1

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Gaijin! Give me a Marksman mega folder and my life is yours! +1

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And yet, apparently “damn near everything” wasn’t actually enough for the folks at Marconi…

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I wanted the one with Abrams or T-55/T-62 hull more than the M48 ones lol

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+1

birb

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Just make a Marksman turret tech tree at this point. +1 though.

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Eeh, i’m not exactly against it, but it feels extremely redundant to add another slow Marksman to the british tech tree.

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Even the LATAM tree could have one of these.
At this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if they somehow put it on a Sherman

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Well unfortunately the AMX-30, T-62, Leopard 2, Abrams, and Osorio versions never manifested into a prototype, but I think it’s obvious that the Marksman was intended as a worldwide all-climate product.

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+1

All the Markmans you can have a line-up of just them, and people say the UK has nothing to do with these hulls(despite owning them.)

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This is a very bad idea, and sets a bad precedent that shouldn’t be set in the first place.

The fact the US gets the Skink, something it had nothing to do with it and even rejected is already bad enough(and embolden them to demand everything that used a screw made in the US). There is no reason to start handing out vehicles based on British-owned hulls(the nation that made it has nothing to do with it at this point) willy nearly to nations that have nothing to do with it (they didn’t buy or test), unless you’re willing to let any vehicle go to whatever tree with no reason.

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abrams would be fun

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I only support the idea for very specific circumstances such as this one, because the hulls are pretty much the only difference between each vehicle and thus we couldn’t expect them all to fit in the British tree.

And of course my idea in general is purely theoretical, I don’t actually think that this is a good plan, I was simply brainstorming how each platform would fit in the current scope of the game.