I’ve already pointed out the firepower & armour of the turret are good, however, thermals? Last I checked, 2S25M has 3rd generation (or at least 2nd generation) sights, 120s are 1st generation and therefore significantly worse, reload fair.
But all of things mentioned are crutches the tank has to rely on to perform, and even with all of that it’s still dogshit as whole because it’s significantly less mobile compared to many other MBTs around that BR, especially standard M1 & Leopard 2s, which will get to positions far quicker than 120S ever will… unless you consider sitting in one spot the entire match to be “good enough”.
This is the exact same reason why Leopard 2AV (of all things) is considered to be generally better than the TURMS-T, despite it not having any thermals, a worse shot, and overall worse protection… it’s simply VASTLY more mobile, on top of that, it had a reload of 7.1 seconds for the longest time as well, so it’s not like it had a reload advantage over the TURMS either.
Might be better to ignore these trolls, you can find the same people at every Abrams topic.
Anyways the turret ring issue must get fixed urgently, BMP2M can shoot the whole front, it cannot penetrate anything other than the turret ring, destroy your tracks and here you are, dead after he drives to your side, also the Gepard can do the same.
Rules are simple, if you dont have any solid experience with certain vehicles then dont claim how good or bad they are.
That isn’t how that works sunshine. Case in point I was defending the fact that the A-10 early outperformed almost every SPAA at its BR when it was 10.0 whilst never having used it against players in ground based purely on my experience of facing it and seeing how it faired when played well vs poorly. Was given the same horrible reasoning in an attempt to handwave all my arguments.
So I played it, and funnily enough everything I had said lined up exactly with how it performed when played properly and I must’ve died maybe a handful of times with hundreds of kills in GRB with it.
Also when you get people who have used the vehicles and do well in them you just handwave it regardless and come out with copium such as “Yeah well we shouldn’t balance the vehicles around what the top (insert arbitrary % you decided upon here) players!”.
The fact of the matter is you will never accept a contrary argument. But hey I’m a US hater so what do I know.
Also I seen you slyly delete your part of the message where you said I apparently don’t know what I’m talking about with the 120S or words to that effect.
Clearly I don’t, it’s only my best performing 10.0 tank in the game with three hundred kills in it. Obviously I know nothing of the vehicle. I wonder what your performance in it is?
As pointed out by someone else 120S has Gen 2 thermals.
But all of things mentioned are crutches the tank has to rely on to perform
What are you even talking about? What you’re saying is effectively “Yeah the tank only performs well because it has these characteristics to allow it to do so.”. This is such a nothing statement. The 120S has essentially unrivalled hull down performance at it’s BR and allows you to effectively lock down regions of the map and the mobility while sub par is still sufficient to move between positions, you just can’t switch your brain off and mindlessly try to rush in the open and have to plan your movements.
True I usually use the medium of spiritcalling to convey my arguments but I felt that you were not in touch with the other realms so had to resort to more base methods such as typing.
@Panther2995
Ah I realise why you were so quick to edit out and delete the part where you were attempting to say that I didn’t know what I was talking about with the 120S and that what I said was all wrong.
It’s because you’ve never played the 120S, and in the same post you were trying to say that I can’t comment on the M1A2 because I haven’t specifically played the M1A2.
Seems you re-read your post and realised that you entirely contradicted your own line of argumentation so decided to quickly edit it out before hopefully nobody seen.
