Nope, but at least I’m not as mid as you.
You like TUSK because it is a safety net that can save you from easily avoidable situations. I prefer to just not get into those situations.
Mr. Average
Gets a 3:1 K/D and already thinks he’s a pro.
joker
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Not sure if you are in much of a position to talk when 1.4:1 seems to already be an achievement for you.
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Did they update tusk?
I never said it was good. With my ping as someone playing from abroad, I have no complaints. =* With all that swagger, only to be this mediocre? That’s embarrassing
You were the one who claimed that someone who doesn’t agree with you on TUSK being good clearly doesn’t play the Abrams.
Which is just incorrect. Also cute excuse with the ping, unless you are from places like Australia etc.
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Don’t get it… the sabra and merkava are at 1.79 and 1.6 K/D…
Which is better than the HCs and the M1a2 (unless i mixed one of them up). The new ones are above that at like 1.8 1.9… but thats normal for a new vehicle on release.
Also, confused here as you were super salty about the armor - kinda weird seeing you in a position contrary here.
Also, I did advocate for the abrams going up in BR. That doesnt change how statistics work though. There is also the 80/20 rule, and while thst probably wont translate perfectly to war thunder… the top performers who are statistical outliers are going to be responsible for a substantial inflation of the vehicles stats. Which is why you cut out the top most and bottom most outliers when calculating average.
War thunder doesnt do that. So you have dudes rocking a 5-8 k/d regardless of nation inflating stats that are leading to balancing decisions that do not accurately reflect what the vast majority of players experience. That was my point.
I still think the abrams can go up, I’d like to see the bulkheads fixed and what not.
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Bulkheads should be fixed regardless, but all the Abrams should definitely go to their appropriate BRs.
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Not giving existing M1A2s volumetrics was a very absurd decision in this update
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You were the one who claimed that someone who doesn’t agree with you on TUSK being good clearly doesn’t play the Abrams.
I was referring to the people who think the TUSK buff (July 6) isn’t relevant. It honestly seems like they’ve never played the Abrams. You were the one who said you’d rather go without it for a mobility advantage that, in my opinion, is minimal compared to the benefits TUSK provides.
I’m Brazilian; I have 140–160 ms ping. It’s impossible to pull off a flick shot.
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That is fair (although TUSK wouldn’t need the buff if Gaijin hadn’t broken it with the major update in the first place, but that is another topic)
In the end we’ll have to agree to disagree since it’s all preference. I have been killed more by the mobility reduction than I have been saved by the actual ERA when I had it equiped, but if it works for you than all the power to you for using it.
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Tusk got buffed??
Technically yes, however it’s more so that Gaijin broke it with the release of the major update and corrected it again a couple of days ago.
It used to offer around ~800mm CE protection before the update, then after the major update release it offered about ~200mm CE protection and now it’s back to around ~800mm CE protection.
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Well, If you go and check most skilled players, even average like myself, their abrams KDs are substantially better overall than russian MBTs.
I’m not ignoring flavour of the month, I’m one who will always point it out.
I’m also the same person with 9 out of 10 trees at top tier who’s been saying on this forum since I joined that the Abrams are some of the best MBTs in the whole game due to how well rounded they were/still are, even more so after a buff.
Leopards steamrolled since release to pretty much the last few months the nerfs were issued to them.
Who said it’s the most Op in existence, think you need to chill a bit and read what i said lol.
the clickbait for example is one of the most used and sold prems in teh game, along with the HC premium.
If we check the all time stats, you can clearly see the M1A1 click bait is better overall than say the T80UE1 which is the exact same BR.
Or the M1A1 AIM being better than the T80UK which is the comparative russian Squadron MBT.
There’s also only one BVM to spawn, so with backups a maximum of 2 times, meanwhile USA has the option to spawn each abrams twice, that now means they have 4 x 12.7 MBTs that can be spawned in twice lol.
Also The M1A2T is still got a great KD ratio for how little time it’s been in game.
At a certain point the fault isn’t the equipment.
My original point as well was merely how that pantherbait wanted us to not use specific player stats, which shows this month the M1A2Sep Trophy and M1A2C are the top dogs of the game lol.
Don’t get what?
The Merkava and sabras are pretty much played by a very small selection of teh player base.
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1 wdym salty about the armour, I’m still pissed it’s not correct and I’ve still gto the game unistalled, just reinstalled for the m26E1 and to get the forum access back.
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2 contrary to what? these abrams are slam dunking lobbies, it’s bullcrap not to call it out as well.
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3 if these where russian, German, chinese ETC the playerbase would be crapping the bed.
It won’t translate at all to warthunder, nor did it translate across to WoT back in the day.
There are more variables at play especially in WT, random teams, CAS, SPAA, Helis etc.
Not really thouhg, percentage wise there’s far more likely to be more worse / average players than those top percentiles that you’re on about, which means that the lower skill players also influence the game a lot.
Or why the older Korean war stuff is slowly moving down in BR (jets I mean) yet things like the hunters don’t due to their legacy status.
The bulkhead change was bogus, but they should move up regardless of said change.
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This is undeniable;
Even if the Abrams are NOT the best tanks, 4x SEPs is still a better lineup than a single 2A7 + 2A5/6s, or a single 80BVM + 72/90s.
2A7V is better than any Abrams will ever be, but it’s just 1, for now.
Regarding Russia, I almost feel like the T-90Ms should be 12.3; that 7 second reload and 4 km/h reverse are just too… detrimental.
Perhaps the T-90Ms could get 3BM59? I recall it being ever so slightly better than 3BM60 (10-ish mm?) Truth to be said, Russia could get a modernised BVM in September or even a T-14 and I think it would be fine, hahah.
I’d mention the T-80BVMs getting 3BM59 too, but I think they are better off with 3BM42-2 due to the faster reload.
Germany is likely getting 2A7A1 or 2A8 soon, so that will be neat.
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They very well could be, if people stopped shooting them in the fking UFP and aimed.
As of right now I cannot’ comment, my last games were played at 6.7 rolling around larping as a proto M26E1 with a long 90.
it’s the pain of germany RN , they get 1 2A7A1 or a 2A8 which would be great as a tank, but they get one.
Then fall back to the 2A7V1 which is also pretty good, but the other leopards? they are getting a bit long in the tooth for their BRs, much akin to the Leclercs.
I wouldn’t say so, Abrams out does it in a good few areas.
- better mobility
- better round
- better reload
- better turret armour
- Same gen thermals
- same optics
- no stupid ass safety hump.
2A7 does get the spall liners and I think better hull armour though no?
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Nope! The SEPs have 2nd gen, while 2A7s have 3rd gen.
Only against Kontakt-5; else, DM53 surpasses M829A3 by 20mm.
Only thing making the Abrams not 100% pointless compared to Leopard, honestly, which is actually a lot!
Yep! Entire crew compartment is coated in spall liners, and it has pretty much TWICE as much hull armor.
Not really; the entire lower cheeks are 200-300m KE, even on SEPv3. SEPv3 has better side and cheek armor, though!
Still, not even SEPv3, even if it were fixed, would be comparable to 2A7V in terms of armor.
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Problem is that the modernized BVM won’t change much, since there is absolutely no credible evidence for the supposed “improved reverse speed”.
It would just be a second BVM, which are already getting shat on by the Abrams right now.
Depends really. For the average players the 2A7s/122s are easily better, but for good players the Abrams is easily better.
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But at least it would be a second T-80BVM; 6 second reload with Relikt. Better than the T-90Ms, and a good addition to the lineup!
Although at this point I’m just onboard with a T-14 straight up lmao. I am trying to grind the Arena, but Russia just isn’t spicy for me anymore besides BMPT and the Pantsir SM-SV.
That’s why I think 2A7s will be better; if a tank is better for 90% of the players, and only worse for the very Top 10%… then it will do better in 90% of the cases compared to a tank of which only the top 10% can do the better of.
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While yes i agree its good, half the players that play the abrams are trash and leave after one death.
The Ariete is allegedly the worst tank at top tier, but some players find it better in a lineup.
Granted this win rate includes the 2A7VHU and Centauro but still italy has a better win rate compared to US.
Yet the USA is still one of the worst nations at 11.7 - 12.0 in terms of win rate, further showing the average player is trash.
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