M1A2C Abrams: Heavy Cavalry!

Not sure what @WestDeservedBMPT is doing with his tests. I’m doing the exact same thing and no penatrationg with A2 through K5 and T90A armor

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You can pen it at point blank range, when you start moving back the impact angle becomes parallel, so the incedence angle is the same as the contruction angle, literally the 1 meter differnce between the m1a2 and the hull of the tank is around 1º at 50m, even at 50m is kinda a lotery

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So it appears you need put two tanks on same terrain to see actual results between them and not diggin another

Can you read the “angle of attack value” where i put the camera is irrelevant as long as it shows a correct angle, like i said anything over 100m, you can just put it at the same level of the armour…

Could someone make a bug report on this:
The m1a2 sep v3 and sep v2 trophy hv should be able to have ROSY smoke and LWS, there are videos on youtube of the rosy being mounted on bradleys and a sep v2.

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And I did showed you actual ingame results that looks just like mine hit analysis. If it would be like yours I could never pen T-90

wait a minute, why are we looking at the performance fo the A2 round which is mostly, if not fully, being used in 12.0 while the T90A is at 11.0?

Upteir? Sure, but less likely.

I’m hoping its still WiP and it’ll change before dev is over

Your reading comprenhesion is something to be studied, look at the range where i was testing on where you reply me first, 500m is not the same as 50m

There is full video

You can count yourself how much of pen and non pen.

Because other guy claim that the A3 was a “sidegrade”

I wish we could test UE, but test has only T-90 with K5

I’m looking at the OP that this coversation is about:

Sure, A2 can pen K5, but if you’re not straight on then it’s less likely to pen.

Idk about you but in matches I don’t often face my opponents straight on.

If I ever planned to shoot the hull armor straight on, it would be from top down, 60 degrees facing my enemy.

T80’s especially. I can’t take chances with Russian vehicles

My takeaway here is not to shoot those spots because of how low dmg it does

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Agreed. I’d rather shoot the gun or the drivers hatch

I guess in a few updates we see MBTs, choppers and IFVs from German origin added to Britain as well.

Canadian Leopards, Indian T-tanks, British Challengers, Boxers, US Abrams tanks, Saab jets, etc etc

All in one tree. Just because this stuff got exported to countries which were part of the Empire 70 years ago or something. Instead of the developer country gets profit, it goes to an Empire which faded away decades ago. I knew british community + suggestion mods were influential. But this is just killing off the game. Tech trees can’t be watered down like this. Same tanks driving around on any side…its allreay bad…but will get worse.

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Most likely. Might as well get rid of national trees at this point.

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Exactly, whats the point of this?

Gajin should just do it like WARNO or something. Just a unified RedFor vs. BLUEFOR tree.

Britain will be the most op nation because of this. Without even operating a fraction of this irl. Its just dumb. Air is the same. Tons of US jets added cause of this. Probably indiany Rafale soon. Well, too late anyways. Limitless copypaste cause some minor nation players feel old empire vibes. This destroys OUR game. I don’t want to see any nations own vehicles constantly turn against them.

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In matches if you lower go for lfp, if you on same terrain level still go for lfp, if you higher don’t bother aiming at lfp, shoot ufp. I can imagine people still aiming when they higher just because they have this “A2 is no-no for K5”.

We talked not about damage, but pen. Of course in battle you go for weak spots, but there are situations when you have no time to aim or you could spare less time just shooting ufp. But it requires experience to sense angle and distance