For some reason, developers seem to think since there is a version of the abrams sepv3 that didnt have trophy aps, they shouldn’t add it: Community Bug Reporting System
Which is just ridiculous. What kind of logic is this? when some nations get the top of the line dream scenario performing vehicles, while others gets treated like dirt. General Dynamics themselves advertise this in their own website that for improved survivability. Source: ABRAMS - General Dynamics Land Systems
Literally one of those photos is a sepv3 without an APS
Thats not the point, the point is, it is stated in texts. Images can be ambigous and claimed to be incorrect, but the text is THERE , clearly stating the m1a2sepv3 should have the trophy.
If an officialy publication of text from the producer and developer of said vehicle isnt enough of a source, then nothing realistically is.
The rightmost image is literally a sepv3 without an aps
It has the turret cheek flats and no APS
It isnt the only such case, not all sepv3s have aps, it was planned to be rolled out to the fleet over time, not all at once
Again, that is not the point.
What is your point, because again sepv3 exists and can exist as a stanalone product without APS, they have been used in service without it, and they have been purchased without it
Words can be more ambiguous than pictures like that
My point is. If the source states, that a vehicle is equipped with something, it should get it. The t90m arena got its arena APS, as it is stated to have it. It wasn’t not included because some might not have been fitted yet irl.
But what do I know, maybe they add it as a separate variant in the future instead of a modification.
Yes, well, if it were Russian they would have added it just because they think it would be possible to mount the APS on it.
Sadly, it’s American.
Indeed
so yeah they already claimed its not a bug, what it is then, i dont know… Community Bug Reporting System
A million fucking times out of ten if it was Russian it would have the APS.
The abrams is not in war so they wont have it equipped in most images except when it needs to, but in warthunder’s case theyre always at war so it should be equipped
Yeah but the t90M doesnt have the arena APS, only the t90m arena
the aps is not a guaranteed part of the sepv3 upgrade, just like the arena is not neccesarily part of the t90M
If what we had in game was the sepv3 trophy then yeah it would have an aps but as it stands no, its not missing anything
Because its not a bug though, its intentional for the sepv3 in game to not be a sepv3 with trophy as they are not neccesarily quaranteed to come together
Trophy is an option, it’s not standard equipment for SEP V3.
Not all units in America’s armored uses Trophy SEP V3, many use SEP V3 without Trophy, because there are situations where it’s not needed.
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You’re wrong, but shilling for Russian equipment is always wrong so your post was doomed from the start.
A Trophy SEP V3 will come in time as variety.
Russia only now got a proper APS tank at top tier. Its been nearly 4 years since 90M introduction.
Its not like USA is lacking an APS tank either, we just got the SEP V2 Trophy.
I don’t understand your thought process, why must you guys always victimize yourselves?
B3A is a mediocre 11.3 at 12.3, doesn’t really count.
Not every SEP3 has trophy. and nevertheless, it doesn’t even make any sense to play a sepv3 over the sepv2 because the only added armor is in the turret (the most armored part) and adds extra weight. Imo, more focus should be put onto the sepv3 getting accurate hull armor rather than getting an aps.
It’s not about APS, it’s the principle of how they implement vehicle capabilities.
I don’t see how this changes what I said. US is eating good this update, can you be happy for once?
Not to mention the US is the only nation with anti-ERA; every other nation either doesn’t have it or had it denied for some reason.
I’m not even a US main so no not really I guess 🗿
