M1A2 SEPv2 Missing M829A3

The M1A2 SEPv2, as implimented currently on the dev server, lacks its primary APFSDS round, M829A3 (source). The round represents a significant improvement from previous US 120mm APFSDS rounds, being heavier, longer, featuring a steel tip designed to defeat Soviet ERA, and propelled by a new propellant solution. In game, the US tree presently needs M829A3 because of its ability to penetrate MBTs equipped with Contakt-5 ERA. The addition of an improved round would help US players defeat the astounding number of top-tier or near-top-tier USSR MBTs equipped with Contakt-5 (6 total; 4 with both thermal sights and laser rangefinders).

I’ve opened a bug report for this issue, which has been submitted as a suggestion.

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Dimensions and details of M829A3 can be found here.

A patent assigned to Northrop-Grumman, designers of M829A3, suggests that penetrators with a solid steel nose, >24mm diameter, and >650mm length (such as M829A3) outperform penetrators with hollow tips (previous M829 rounds) by at least 20% in penetration against ERA (see Fig. 4).

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This new round is currently not needed

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Yeah, you see, the problem with adding the M829A3 from 2003 is that it invalidates primary protection addon of the Russian tanks…

And that is against the rules.

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We all know that Gaijin won’t add a round that negates all Russian MBT ERA even though they’re adding a vehicle that’s primary round is M829A3

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welcome to the club, DM73 is missing as well

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I mean zero top tier tanks where needed, but considering this is mesn to be the big “generation leap” to rank 8 then why not now ?

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Because it’s not necessary?

some nation is still using 577mm pen round :(

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Then why is the t90m being added despite russia being top dog ? Doesnt seem needed to me ?

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Problem is that unlike the SEPv2 the 2A7V has some armor.

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I have a feeling you’re a Russian top tier main

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Oh he is

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its missing its armor and its bugged…

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M829A3, then move all the new top tanks to 12.0 👍

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Definitely

Higher but agreed

Well 12.0 if no BR decompression. Ideally like 15.0.

I honestly thought the new R8 vehicles were going to be much better, but a bunch of current tanks were moved to rank 8 but there hasn’t been a single BR change… I mean, the Sep2 and Sep1 are basically carbon copies aren’t they? lol(In game)

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Yup, literal no difference other than “hey look! New and more ERA as well CROWS!” No armor improvements or nothing.

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