https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/m0ITNd22gRXO
I made M1A2 SEPv2 TUSK KIT part out report
They reopened the bug report again. Asking for more sources regarding DU hull armor.
Guess I’m going to spend parts of my weekend searching for that.
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Will it be the same I wonder get information just to get block by “THAT” guy again
Idk. Trickzzter is the one who reopened it. So I gues we will find out.
Maybe the outrage caused rhe higher ups to put some pressure on him?
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I got muted by mod just because made a topic asking question about him not insult and flaming i don’t know that really I don’t know what we can do anymore it completely disaster really asking question can result being mute this is unfair
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Lord’s speed you magnificent specimen!
Abrams must be corrected.
As should all NATO tanks.
Don’t know if this has already been used but i found a pretty reliable looking source stating that compared to the normal M1A2, the sepV2 received “Survivability enhancements including next evolution armor”. Though I don’t know how this would be interpreted by the mods and devs, it does show that the sepv2 being a copy paste of the normal M1A2 in terms of armor is complete bs.
https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub/reports/FY2020/other/2020DOTEAnnualReport.pdf#page=69
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No, there are explicit mentions of DU being in the hull on later models. Here is one document that says it would require taking the hulls apart to introduce the updated NBC and armor modules when updating from M1 to M1A2 standards.:
Page 27:
“This option would include a program to convert the oldest Abrams
tanks—the Mls–to the M1A2 configuration. Such a modification would entail
replacing the entire turret, including the gun; installing new electro-optics;
modifying the hull so that it can accept the active nuclear, biological, and
chemical (NBC) protective system; and replacing the armor packages and the
entire electrical system.”
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Lmao his review is literally just “the game has vehicles”…
He’s made his profile private since this was posted lmao.
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Well, both cases are good. I know for sure about ceramics being far into development.
Here is also SPECIFICALY SEPv2 turret mentioned
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Right. I didn’t mean to discount improved ceramics with my statement. Just wanted to clarify that DU was indeed added to the hull. The paragraph preceding the one I quoted on page 27 talks about the special armor of the A2 incorporating DU. The same special armor inserts they would need to disassemble older M1 hulls to incorporate while upgrading them to the A2 standard.
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Let’s make America crest again!
It’s ridiculous that we have 2006 SEP and 2007-2023 SEPv2 and yet both have the same hull armor as 1979 M1 and turret armor as 1992 M1A2. M1A1 AIM has hull issues too.
Hopefully, soon the Abrams tanks will actually have some useful protection and be more than slightly better Arietes, which is what they’ve practically become at this point.
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M1A1 with hull weight armor upgrade simulator:
M1A2 with hull weight armor upgrade simulator:
M1A2SEP with hull weight armor upgrade simulator:
M1A2SEPV2 with hull weight armor upgrade simulator:
Pretty clear the M1 Abrams series received hull upgrades since 1980, either in the form of heavier composite or simply composite improvement.
@Kenny110 @_Renzo Maybe add these pics to the bug report? It might help?
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Wow our effors to protest are working :D
They are doing it for 2A7V as well. Might be gajin change of mind to corrupt us with 90M :)
These are awesome. The main problem is that the conversation is still locked so I can’t personally add it.
I think only @Kenny110 can physically add it to this bug report now.
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Can you just open another one with a slightly different title?
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I mean M1E1 clearly had hull weight simulator aswell.
Spoiler
This is allegedly M1E1 in 1984. NOT M1A2 or Sep V1 or so on
https://i.imgur.com/t4mDEfD.jpeg
Now one can’t take for granted things from test/development vehicles actually ended up in production