Below is the Bug Report for all M1s to have a spall liner, much like the DU armor reports giving this your support increases its visibility and helps us get closer to an accurately modeled Abrams.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/BcMSgWYhwd5k
You need another secondary source to go along with your first source i.e. both your 2nd and 3rd source are not sources that will be accepted in bug reports:
OEM Manuals (primary source):User manuals, repair manuals, factory manuals, operating manuals, technical manuals etc.Single source is required (preferred source).
Authored works (secondary source):Reference books on collections of vehicles/aircraft/ships (‘coffee table books’), biographies, specialist books, “expert” opinion publications, industry magazines etc.At least two unrelated sources required.
Hopefully someone has another secondary source that can be added along with your first source.
There was a primary source submitted directly to the devs, however that will take them a little while. As it is, this was not my bug report, I want to draw attention to it however.
ah fair enough then
A 600mm figure would be outstanding, specially if it comes along with M829A3 as it should!
If we get the Hull armor where it should be and spall liners are either added for all, or removed for all, I’d rather not have the M829A3.
I think when BOTH tanks have to aim at each other for weak points on frontal engagements, it makes for more interesting gameplay.
I don’t like how presently T-80BVMs just rush through streets knowing they’ll very likely be immune to the first shot unless it’s aimed for lower glacis which wouldn’t kill them anyways- while only having to “avoid the turret cheeks” on Abrams.
100% agreed. When volumetric is actually functioning (kinda hit or miss at the moment) M829A2 and DM53 work plenty fine. I’d much rather have the abysmal armor and automatic spalling fixed so I can actually have fun.
And let’s be honest, with the current state of US teams and the win rate we DESPERATELY need some hand holding here
I think it’s not so much hand holding as… “De-Nerfing.”
I agree. Balance wise the SEPv2 should get either the improved LFP armor OR M829A3 if that doesn’t happen.
I know Spanish does overshoot balance from time to time to get tanks into the strong/meta devining category. (Not sure if it’s intentional, so no hard feelings)
100% agreed.
I heard the update has dropped…let me guess, Abrams didn’t get changed?
From what I’ve been told, no changes at all.
hahaha just checked, exactly what I was expecting.
-No M829A3
-No armor upgrade
-No spall liner
-Still can’t remove TUSK
What a joke this is. Okay Gaijin.
Bonus: The T-90M is still absolutely broken.
yeah… welp, I said I wasn’t going to play and I am not playing this game till they fix that. Now, time to adventure into Baldur’s gate
by the way guys, they might delete this thread because of “DEV SERVER” so you might want to move this somewhere else
Time to abandon the ship called "USA top tier " right now. With exact same tank with other name and ununmountable TUSK that gives you 0 actually. No shells, no anti era tips. LFP still 400RHA. Ehh, they gave some hope but it ended like always, with bias towards one nation. Pointless to play when enemy will need at leat 3-4 shots before death but they will snap you from every angle with just one shot no matter how is your Abrams called.
Well now it applies to the live server as the Sep was added with 0 changes from the dev server.
they’d better write that special Abrams devblog fast
