It’s pitching in at 10 tons over most of it’s rivals so many are thinking there is ten tons of something in there. Gun is not the greatest about.
In game you will have a tank not made for fighting other tanks …er… fighting other tanks and with zero infantry support. Be interesting.
We have fuckton of these allready a lot of them are very very good at killing tanks.
Well American mains will have another one to whine about if it cant :) A light tank no faster than an MBT.
A good round, a nice set if sensors and hopefully a good spaded reload.
In many ways as pointed out above its a CV90-120. And last i checked that has given people enough headaches.
Edit: offcourse its no top tier monster, but idk if people expect that from what is a infantry support weapon more or less
It depends how it looks when it comes out, plenty of scope for upgrades. Possible that the US might release a different version for export. 7.62 MG is very light, the gun is rifled and could be a more powerful version and the roof mounted gun package could be better.
I watched an interesting documentary on it which made the point that considering that Staff Sgt Stevon Booker was killed while firing while exposed on the roof, his namesake vehicle still requires others to get up there and do the same when other options are available.
Possible, but considering what M900 gives in penetration its seemingly fine for the game.
Yeah, when I created the suggestion there was nothing on it as well as the vehicle hadn’t even been named the Booker yet. Based on the sources I had, it’s pretty much all I could say about the armor. I haven’t seen anything new yet on it so hopefully we’ll get a little more information in the near term on it. As you stated and broken down for any newcomers:
Basic NATO STANAG 4569 Level 6:
Everything is likely to remain classified and the values will have to be assumed off of this essentially. There’s been mention that Level 6 encompasses all-around 14.5mm AP protection values as well but I’d have to find it. It’s been a while.
+100, I love this thing.
As the game currently stands and with M900 it could be a good 10.7/11.0.
The discussion about protection does not make much sense. The protection at the upper level does not matter because it is a 34-ton vehicle (up to 38 with modules) prepared to support/engage infantry. I think that the 30mm protection on the front of the tower is more than enough (I would say that it is even a little ambitious). The chassis has a good lean angle at the front. I highly doubt that the Soviet .57 will resist from the side.
At the higher level you should play with a light tank, which are also the most fun in my opinion. I bought the M1 KVT, the M1128 and the F-5C just to wait for Gaijin to give us the M10, that’s all I want.
I love light tanks and I love playing at the higher levels. GAIJIN GIVE US MORE LIGHT TANKS!!
Its 72 km/h, thats pretty damn fast, its also tracked not wheeled
And its based on the Ajax. Its no worse, and significantly better, than many upgunned IFVs in service with other countries because of its modular composite armor, and advanced subsystems.
The 105mm is its only drawback imo. Quite an odd choice. I think they should’ve looked into a 120mm or even 130mm, because that wouldve made it even better at obstacle clearing and given it a much better chance if it ever encountered armor
But still, its quite heavily armored for its role if it can withstand 30mm APFSDS
This ^^^^^^
One thing to take note is the 30mm APFSDS is at 500 meters so at close range it still will hurt. As for the gun, at least with the M900A1 it will still put in a lot of work. Maybe there is another 105mm round in development or I think they said they should be able to mount the lighter 120mm gun that’s like the one used on the AbramsX demonstrator. Forgot the gun’s name.
That maximum protection is with optional add-on armour. A very good design, making a modular light tank with options for increased tactical mobility or improved protection based on the mission requirements.
105mm was chosen specifically to simplify logistics and conversion training by using the same ammunition as the (now retired) M1128 that the Booker replaced. 105mm shells are also smaller which means more can be stored in the vehicle, allowing for longer periods between resupplies (very useful for an airborne vehicle operating beyond the front lines).
Though I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a 120mm armed M10A1 in the next 10 years or so.
As much as Id like a 130, this is 100% the likely outcome, especially if they find a new caliber for the abrams and need to use up old stockpiles
A crows system adds substantial height and its not necessary, the crows was needed to protect the gunner from urban environments. This is NOT an urban vehicle, but a fire support vehicle
Also, they have a .50 mounted on top
But I do see the irony
Does it actually have that engine power? One of the links you put in the post says it has 800 HP with a possible upgrade to 1070
I really hope it has higher engine power, makes it go from a mediocre vehicle to a good one
Also, looking at my first comment talking about the thermals, it’s weird that it has 2nd gen thermals while the vehicle it is replacing (M1128) has 3rd gen
When I made the post there was some uncertainty on characteristics. The sources need to be updated which I most certainly can do. The source for the engine is new and confirmed while the other needs to be annotated as old but still contains other relevant information. As for the sight, I’m confident it is a 3rd generation (which it most certainly should be) and I found a brochure from PASEO describing more of the characteristics of the sight.There was uncertainty on whether or not this would be the sight used at the time of the original post (I posted the original back in the old-forum) but sending multiple prototypes as well as low-rate production kicking off, this can be updated as well now.
To summarize, this post needs some touch ups/updates and I will take care of this soon, especially prior to any implementation. I will do a source scrub as well.
I feel pretty confident in being able to clean up the post with all the new open source as well as reliable information available that I lacked originally. The sight is out there, the engine/transmission, the platform characteristics (to a degree), electronics, armament, the mission being an assault gun essentially vice a dedicated Light Tank, etc. The main things I need the most clarification (if anyone has additional information on) are:
This specifically is what I’m more nervous on based on how armor has been implemented on newly added modern vehicles. Anyways I do apologize to everyone for not getting this updated sooner.
Could people at-least lie about the armor protection and beef it up some? We all know gaijin will butcher the armor already considering it’s an USA tank….
At 10.7 it’d be alone.
10.3.
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I would love it to be 10.3 to play with the KVT, Stryker and F-5C. But, with M900 this tank can never be 10.3.
BR would be minimum 10.7
Unfortunately, Gaijin was never too interested in whether any vehicle was left alone in his BR.
Compared to TAM2C, it has better ammo, but for most enemy it can meet, dm63 and m900 is similar. And M10’s mobility is little worse than TAM2C but still similar. The main difference is protection, it can survive 30mm apfsds. Considering TAM isn’t quite good at 10.0, 10,3 maybe fine for a slow “light” tank.
