M1 and leopard 2 turret baskets

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yo i just got auto flagged l o l

same

Time to go hide under the bed or switch nations.

Yeah, my 0.92 is a bit of a skill issue ngl.

I am way too agressive with that thing. The speed and reload are so fast that i cant help it.

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In that case its harder to load a shell into the breech if its not mostly straight.

I do think the turret baskets are a tad bit odd. Not necessarily because they didn’t exist but because from everything I have heard, them getting hit would not affect the horizontal traverse of the Abrams. I understand it was for the idea of balance, as their was “too much” room, however, it was a realistic advantage the US has.

Part of the nice thing about Abrams and these tanks is that they have ROOM, and aren’t terribly cramped and hurt their crew, unlike the T-XX series. It feels like an unfair and unjustified nerf. If you hit the side of a tank and don’t hit anything, that was 100% on you- a skill issue, as some may call it.

You didn’t see Gaijin making the T-XXs weaker when the US was doing extremely poorly, did you? They didn’t go ahead and make ERA not work. Yes we got that stupid 5.0 second reload buff, but as said, it was stupid. Even then, it was not necessarily a nerf to Russia- but a buff to the US. Overall, this was just poor decision making, and unless someone can prove to me that the Horizontal Traverse is tied to the entirety of the turret basket, I will continue to believe and argue so.

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They would have to nerf all other nations. But they shouldnt nerf anything because one nation cant seem to do well.

For context:
US win rate at top tier is over 5% lower then the 2nd worst nation(Israel) 39.8% vs 45.1%

1st-6th nations are within 1% of eachother.
53.2%-54%

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Lol getting a little angry when you are the one who decided to pull the experience card and people find out the experience you claim you have doesn’t lead you to any success, what value does your experience hold after you played the game since 1970 but perform worse than someone who downloaded the game three months ago?

At the end of the day, your experience can be valuable, but without growth and adaptation, your experience of 10,000 matches in Abrams is worthless as it was just an experience of you repeating mistakes all over again lol next time don’t brag about having the experience that holds no value. Last heard M1A1 HC is top tier, 80% of the matches it is facing the same thing the SEP V2 face, and you start it by mentioning rank 7, suddenly opinion doesn’t matter if you don’t have x amount of matches in SEP v2??

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Got a source for that, as there are numerous videos of M1 loaders loading without issue in motion along with challenger loaders, and leopard loaders doing the same.

Hell, there is videos of Leopards and M1s in Ukraine right now cranking out rounds without issues while in motion.

Ironic bit about that, per the data project, the US is not even in the top three most played nations anymore for top tier, France has somehow supplanted it in total games played.

Would also like a source on this since the data project has Israel at a 76% WR on the 19th.

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Im using statshark. I use it because it seems much more reliable. Yours has sweden’s rank 1 at like 15% winrate which is wild.

On there, the win rates are as follows.

1: italy-54%
2: sweden-53.9%
3: russia-53.8%
4: france-53.5%
5: japan-53.3%
6: germamy-53.2%
7: china-51.4%
8: britain-48.5%
9: israel-45.1%
10: US-39.8%

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I asked about if you played US and if so how recent for a very good reason. Because it matters and is a valid reason. Experience dealing with this absolute nonsense matters but according you some of you claim everything is fine and it’s all just in our heads and it’s truly not an issue. And I’m here along with many others to tell you that it is. But you clearly haven’t been on both sides of this argument and many of us have. You can’t seem to understand that very simple thing and it’s not just you.

The reason I mentioned the ranks I did was seeing if you played the Abrams with hydraulic pump as of recent for very good reasons because it MATTERS. Have you delt with the constant being outnumbered EVERY single match or not? All of that matters but you know that and we know that you do. And then on top of my simple question you felt the need to investigate me like some weirdo over a video game and then talk shit about it and try to shame me…over a video game. That’s insulting to say the least buy like I said let me make it easier for you to understand.

My grind is done. I have no XP needed for anything and this is all custom game mentality gameplay on my end. I dont need to get a huge score and get a ton of points in a match so there is no reason to sweat or even remotely care about those stats. They were trashed a long time ago. But again… that isnt important and why you felt the need to go there tells me a lot about you. With that said I’ll say it again, I dont like you, at all. I have dealt with it and I’ve also played with just ONE Russian tank and I did that just to make sure I wasnt tripping and I’m still not exactly used to it but I did better in the OBJ 292 with a Lv1 crew completely stock and can do better than ANY of my Abrams with Expert crew at minimum and several ACE crew. It’s night and day a different game. I have all the proof I need so you won’t convince me by playing this game. That’s it and I said what I said and until you experienced being on this side you dont matter.

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Ironic

edit: he wanted someone else to try to play the abrams. I dont have the seps unlocked but i have the m1a1 hc. Still pretty stock and the heatfs grind sucked.

but here is the 3rd game i played after unlocking apfsds

so far, it seems to play pretty similar to the lower abrams.

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Good stuff and nice to see. Was this recent or before all the changes? Regardless it’s refreshing to see that you at least played higher BRs. Are you wanting to unlock any of the SEPs or are you content with what you have for now? They are about the same in regards to gameplay but they at least come with better thermals but outside of that basically the same. The gen1 thermals most Abrams have is where I struggle with the most. I have to use them more than others may use them with me being color blind. A tank that’s in any type of foliage and not moving is almost invisible to me and for whatever reason the thermals will have foliage appear with hints of heart images which just blend them all in…SEPa at least help a little more with this but it’s still very much so an issue I still have and always will have.

So Iin your honest opinion where would you place the US amongst their counterparts? Where do you think if any the US lineup could improve? In my experience I only really have that first spawn to get any work put in because often than not by my second spawn my team is gone and I’m left with a copy other guys and already pinned in our spawns. I would always keep spawning in and only recently started backing out to not deal with playing 3v13 but that comes with a ton of time with crew lock. Personally I think that we could use a better SPAA, turret ring fixed and a better HE round and that’s about it. In hull down fights the steps don’t really stand a chance with the tops of our turrets being HE magnets while we don’t exactly have the shells to return this favor even if the other tanks don’t suffer from MGs on top bring weak spots. I was hoping the new round we got would help with this but it doesn’t and we can’t really do much against most tanks hidden except bounce shells and constant 'hits" being displayed.i don’t see others really talking about this but to me I think it’s a pretty significant disadvantage to have and something I’ve noticed a lot lately.

it was a realistic advantage for US until gaijin through a lack of understanding of hydraulic systems made shooting the hydraulic tank instantly disable the turret traverse, even before adding the turret basket abrams already lost turret drives way more often than any other tank

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I do have a question about the turret basket, the Abrams’ for example, why when does it get disabled it usually catches on fire that we need to put out?

I played these matches about 30 minutes before posting them.

I am not actively grinding them but i do have the first one set to research. I just dont like getting past the heatfs stock grind.

I have not played top tier for all nations. For the US, I do enjoy the flexibility that the abrams offers. The russian mbts tend to get stuck with bad reverse gears which causes me to get caught out more often.

As for improvements, mostly just better spaa (which all nations need). mbt gameplay is basically just whoever hits first wins so i have not noticed much difference after the changes. The only time i notice it is when something with an autocannon is hitting my flank.

Honestly, i would like for the antennae to be removed. Those things are so tall and give away my position when im flanking.

Thank you man for your responses. I appreciate you for your willingness to open conversation and applaud you. Nothing but respect

these guys play U.S for a few hours and think its indicative of playing the U.S Tech tree for 6+ years. When all the Tanks were balanced, these people did nothing but cry U.S O.P, U.S Is currently stomping everyone, then gaijin caved gave damn near every russian top tier tank 3BM-42 never uptiered any of them, then went and deleted a actual report off the old forums proving the Abrams had D.U Hulls, and now they will keep it like this. Every Abrams added is virtually copy / paste of the previous ones. They haven’t fixed any issues brought up in bug reports.

Again, unless u have any proof that other than the 3 HAs in the army school has DU hull armour, please stop the ‘abrams DU hull missing’ argument, no proof provided. M1A2 V3 will have DU hull, nothing before it other than the 3 in army school, which could be added, has DU hull.