The Object 292 is a 10.7 BR T-series tank with APFSDS = 698mm penetration.
The M1Abrams is a 10.7 BR tank with APFSDS = 372mm penetration.
Now that the M1 damage model is sufficiently nerfed with turret baskets counting as turret rings why does it not have access to the M900 round for 522mm penetration?
“Rules for thee but not for me” Bias is out of control for 4 years now. How to keep them honest? or should I just give up.
Lets see here:
Forwards mobility: M1
Horizontal traverse: M1
Vertical traverse: M1
Vertical gun angles: M1
Reverse: M1
Thermals: M1, 292 doesnt even have them
Reload: M1
Utility: M1
Smokes: M1, 292 doesnt even have them
Neutral steering: M1, 292 lacks it
Survivability: M1
Ammo stowage: M1
Secondary armament: M1, 292 has no MGs.
vs
Penetration: 292
Armor: 292
You think maybe there are other reasons why these tanks are the same br
Yes all those things don’t make up for it.
It has worse survivability.
Early thermals are detrimental to unusable.
All it has that is relevant is reload and traverse and reverse.
I played for 7 hours to get in top 3 in the team to get the “Democracy Deliverer” decal because it’s remotely humorous last night and the experience was horrible. The only times I got there was with CAS or the team had collapsed so badly only 3-5 people were left trying. It’s just part of huge problems with the game at the moment. It’s just not worth playing. Challenger series is still missing 2 pieces of side armour. When are they going to start putting some credibility back on their name.
The Aesthetics of this game are great but something changed since the release of the first Pantsir as a time frame and what ever it is the magic sauce has never come back.
Bias is overused. Why can’t they just be historically accurate. A good portion of the modern Western Autocannons are missing around 30-40% armour penetration and MBT rounds missing their correct values at 2000meters instead of 10 meters the game provides.
Even things like Bradley IFV being nerfed to fight at lower BR’s, Star Streak still unusable due to my average ping of 225ms in the South Pacific.
Not in this case. The abrams is way more mobile in all regards and has better gun depression while still having good enough armor and gun for the BR it finds itself at. You could give it M833 and there would be no issues I will give you that.
By doing what
Just to be clear, if your “make things historically accurate” at the end of the day makes russian tanks way worse than western tanks, they would just end up at lower BRs and you’d have majorly modern russian tanks fighting ancient western tanks to compensate. The game is going to have to be semi-balanced regardless as it currently is.
292 is way easier to play. Just click center mass of any tank and its gona go thru. I have both tank and i like both of them but 292 is way easier to play imo. I even take 292 up to 11.7 regularly and it does just fine cuz it punch thru leopard and abrams no problem and the post pen damage is really good
Yeah I have both too so easy to compare. Sticks out like dogs balls.
it so well done!
Russia gets the t34-57 at 4.7 with 145mm of pen yet the british get the firefly at 4.7 with 190mm of pen.
Therefore the t34-57 should have its round’s pen increased to 190mm.
Only if it had that round. Show me the historical round and I’ll agree with you.
Non-sequitur nonsense.
By giving it the rounds available to it from it’s inventory.
Then move the t34-57 down to 3.3.
Germany has a medium tank with the same pen there.
How do you think this is relevant? The M1 is missing 2 rounds from it’s inventory.
I’m not talking about changing BR’s or making up fake ammo for a flawed argument.
Why so stingy? I don’t get it?
I dont really care if they give it m900. Though it would suck to see it go up in br. I use it with my a6e and a10.
Why should it go up when Obj.292 still has a far better point and click round at the same BR?
The Abrams damage model is so weak now it’s just a light tank with poor acceleration but good top speed.
Anyways. It’s not fun. I’ve gotten to the point in War Thunder where I just log on enough to play so the forums don’t lock me out for account inactivity. So I can see where the community is at and if Gaijin are trying to fix things or just driving their game into the ground. I’m just one person but who knows how many peoples opinions I represent. Somethings been wrong for 4 years now.
Let me ask this to you.
Why is the panther d the same br as the t35-85? Panther has way better pen.
So you didn’t read the rest of what I said
Turret traverse alone probably would do it.
I haven’t played at lower tiers in a long time and the things I want to play just aren’t worth it. If you fire first and your shot’s do nothing 80% of the time unless back stabbing then it doesn’t feel balanced. Feels like you’re getting ripped off.
No I saw, you said M833 could be sensible.
Anyway I’m gonna chuck it in for the night can’t please everyone.