M-51 BR Is Not Balanced

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Near identical firepower - 1/3 of the steel triangle

The 4.0 has better mobility - yet another 1/3 of the steel triangle

Nope. That’s not how angling with a cast hull works.

Only realy advantage

Only a half second difference. Pretty much meaningless in practice.

again, it’s just a single weakspot. if u can’t shred the M-51 by shooting there while it’s aiming at u with it’s 400mm HEAT, then it’s not reliable at all.

ragebait

“pretty much meaningless in practice”
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even Dicker Max has faster reload with a 105mm cannon and an expert crew, and it’s also turretless and in a lower BR, with almost the exact same paper armor that any tank can pen.

You don’t really aim when your guns are spread that much. And autocannons have a lot of spread.

I can confidently tell you after 8500 hours that autocannons can go through the front of a Sherman lol

The 30mm API belt on a Gepard is about the same penetration and will go through the front of a Maus sometimes.

I am your senior in experience, so I definitely know what can and can’t happen in this game lol

Autocannon API is known to be silly in this game.

bro, a Itspv Leopard penetrated the frontal armor of my T-62M-1’s turret which has as minimum 100mm if u don’t aim for the composite armor…

The AP-I has 68mm of penetration. What are you talking about?

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???

Did you not bother looking?

Autocannon AP-I is silly, like I said.

i did, bozo, the thing is i still don’t understand how is this possible in Gaijin’s Wonderland.

looks like anything that does enough spam can pen.

What if you do aim for the composite armour?? :)

+400mm of armor

Don’t gotta sling insults. I was trying to show you something.

ik, just saying Gaijin loves RNG and sadly EVERYTHING is possible in their wonderland.

Sometimes (quite often) the hit detection/penetration calculator just gives up and shells just lolpen. Its more common with spam canons like the 35mm KDA or the 20mm on XM800T because of the volume of fire.