Are you posting sekrit dokumints in my forumn?!???!!
Many parameters are missing, for exemple lob number of each seeker → Magic-2 have 4, R-73 have 2 → better to exclude Flares with IRCCM → also the reason why R-73 and Magic-2 shouldn’t share same numbers for IRCCM.
Let me guess, you’re going to say :
R-27ER and AIM-7M?
Well even if it’s not those,… i can assure you that we have more than 2 Pulse-Doppler Missile in the game currently.
And that AIM-7E is a Pulse only, while 7F is Pulse-Doppler for exemple ^^"
Continous wave is used for both Pulse and Pulse Doppler missile systems, as the continous wave is given by the radar, not the missile,…
the missile simply is capable of following the trail of the continous waves echoes, that the seeker recieve.
Whaattt???
I can give a monopulse Fox-1, and a PD Fox-1 missile, i can even give several missiles Fox-1 type, which uses different Variants of technology type as seeker, but all are considered Fox-1 type.
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even i wouldnt go that far
I have no clue what you mean by “lob number”, and seeing as the only corresponding “2” or “4” in either .blkx file is under helicopter grouping (which is irrelevant to these missiles), I’ll disregard this as nonsense.
Why not? The 550Mk.2 is a 2.4>0.75 gate while the R-73 is a 4.5>0.75, putting both missiles at equal footing in terms of IRCCM capability.
No? Are you fucking stupid? The AIM-54s.
The AIM-7E/F are both CW missiles, try again.
The AIM-7F is most definitely not an ARH missile.
You’re talking as if pulse / pulse doppler emissions aren’t the exact same.
CW missiles are less likely to bite off on interference signals, so whether or not the radar is operating on a range or speed gate makes no difference. They are simply more effective at tracking targets against a backdrop.
It’s a SARH missile. No shit it won’t be emitting its own CW signal.
SARH missiles are not PD, they only come in 2 variations… Bistatic continuous wave, or shared sum/difference monopulse.
PD missiles are ARH.
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Have you ever seen an IR seeker?
If not you can’t understand,…
FOX-3 are ARH not SARH,…
But please go read about how missile works,…
Because they’re not,…
One is affected by Ground clutter which the second one isn’t,…
Please read in the whole F-4J manual excerpt about AIM-7E and you would understand most of the problem,…
What type? 1C, 2C, chilled, optical, what are we talking about here? FPA, TDI, SPIR, there’s a myriad of IR seeker types ranging from almost any wavelength you can think of.
I’m sure I can’t. I’ve only been working around aircraft since my teens.
Yes, because one takes advantage of a velocity gate, while the other does not. This has little to do with missile tracking, and a lot to do with acquisition of a target.
So it’s not my lack of knowledge, it’s your lack of vocabulary. Got it.
If you don’t want to say CAT, just say so!
Sure,… using English Acronyms when i’m french is surely useful,…
If you’re making it hard, you’re trying to shut me off here,… french Acronyms are not the same than english ones for many of them.
Anyways,… you were unable to understand that iwere talking of 4 multi-element Detector on AD3633 compared to the 2 Element used in R-73 Seeker.
Is currently normal to how game work.
It’s a standardized world out there…
Then you elaborate. You don’t claim people know nothing simply because they don’t understand an arbitrary acronym without context.
My entire assumption is that you were talking about in-game figures, as you were making claims on their in-game capabilities.
Any aircraft with a doppler radar is capable of firing the AIM-7E lower than that, especially with the introduction of the F-4J’s doppler spectrum analyzer.
yes i know, i’m using NF EN Standard, which is ISO :P
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Nope, lower. Can be and should be are two different things.
Some of the targets in the video were as low as 200ft.
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As I said, PD missiles. PD missiles are ARH.
You’re the one claiming a PD missile is SARH.
Dude you’re providing a document that is not allowing you to Look Down/Shoot down,…
That value of the 500Feet, is for you when firing on a higher ennemy or same altitude one.
Therefore, yes → i can shoot a missile from below 500Feets,… to a guy that is over the horizon as the Ground clutter can be affecting my missile.
500feets is also required to ensure the missile doesn’t get in trees, when launched (as the missile is dropped before using it’s own engine : not modelized in WT)
→ anyways, LD/SD is possible for a target over 5000 feets, and If your dive angle do not exceed 20°.
And thats what we were discussing about : LD/SD
PS: your video didn’t precise missile type:
Is it AIM-7E? E2? E3? E4?
Or the AIM-7F and it’s GCS allowing it to go lower, see lower and ect.
It’s a guide for pilots to put themselves in advantageous positions and to be confident that the system should reliably work, it will not state the actual exact limits of said missile since such limits are impossible to make generic, so there is some amount of capabilities that are ignored to allow for bread guidelines to be produced where reliability is known.
So how did this one succeed then?
200ft AGL is definitely lower than 500ft right?
Not, in the sparrows case; the motor fires and is ejected simultaneously. Also it is modeled for some missiles / rockets / bombs. Like the Tiny Tim, or Aircraft dependent trapeze type ejection mechanism(s) which are installation dependent.
Did you watch the video? for example the first test after the timestamp had a dive angle of 25°, and the radar had a further 12° of declanation.
It did, for each test it specifies the usage of either the AIM-7D or -7E.
Also there is no difference in the seeker between the AIM-7C, -7D, -7E/-7E-2 & -7E-3 so the specification doesn’t matter (F-3H-2N, could carry each of them without modification, though it isn’t modeled in game for balance reasons). For the main improvements between the Major variants is the motor. and the -7E-2 allows for the control surface lockout to be dynamically adjusted, and is otherwise like the -7E-3 being a reliability focused subvariant.
The -7E-4 is specific to the USN (Early F-14A, only) and is an AIM-7F Seeker & Guidance section mated to the -7E motor and was used for simulation, and live fire training on the cheap in the interim as missiles could be remanufactured at low cost and expediently while reserving the limited pool of actual AIM-7F AUR’s for warfighting.
The trials took place in April 1967, The first deliveries of (the -7F to the USAF, not USN) occurred in Jan 1976, Eight and a Half years later. Though I do think that the F-14A may have had access to Pre-production rounds (The -7F’s Design was finalized late '74.) for its first cruise in July '75 (they took part in Operation Frequent Wind, in the dying days of 'Nam).
On that picture, we can calculate : (in meters/angle)
3048 - 61 → 2987m of altitude
6nm = 11112m
8nm = 14816m
So by Pythagore theorem :
(11112^2-2987^2)= 114 554 375
(14816^2-2987^2)= 210 591 687
Square(114 554 375)= 10703 m
Square(210 591 687)= 14511 m
Now, we can calculate dive angle
Angle for 6nm: 90-arcsin(10703/11112) = 15.6°
Angle for 8nm: 90-arcsin(14511/14816) = 11.64°
So,… i don’t know WHERE you did see 25° dive angle.