Locking 90% of tank cammos behind a paywall is peak design

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Unlockable camouflage for USSR/Russian vehicles.

Tricolour camouflage: 200 GE
Tricolour desert camouflage: 200 GE
Bicolour desert camouflage: 360 points
Deforming desert camouflage: 200 GE
Deforming forest camouflage: 1080 points
Deforming winter camouflage: 720 points
Finnish summer camouflage: 200 GE
Deforming tricolour camouflage: 200 GE
Late green camouflage: 1260 points
Late desert camouflage: 200 GE

That is 4 out of 10 camouflages that are unlockable. 60% are locked behind a paywall.

Unlockable camouflage for American vehicles:

Grey desert camouflage: 200 GE
Basic desert camouflage: 370 points
Late summer camouflage: 1120 points
Winter verdant camouflage: 200 GE
Snow with trees camouflage: 750 points
Three tone camouflage: 200 GE
Red desert camouflage: 200 GE
Summer verdant camouflage: 1310 points
Bicolour camouflage: 200 GE

That is 4 out of 9 camouflages that are unlockable, over 50% are locked behind a paywall.

I can keep going, I could go down all the planes that require GE to unlock camouflages, same as tanks, helis, and boats. “Pretening” that such cosmetics are not locked is just as wrong as pretending that they are.

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I’m going to follow up with screenshots later tonight but I’m fairly certain that all my WW2/Coldwar US tanks have like 4 version of olive drab camo, 3 desert patterns, some forest/jungle camo and a snow skin all ulockable by destroying enemy vehicles.

Additionally the number of camouflage variants varies from vehicle to vehicle. I can’t say for sure but I would wager that actuall number of paywalled (GE) camos (excluding marketplace) is at best 25% and 40% at worst. With almost all vehicle having a forest, desert and winter camo to unlock based on vehicles destroyed.

Besides, in a world filled with scummy microtransactions and $100 premium vehicles, paywalled skins are some of the least offensive purchases available.

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Would be nice to have more unlockable camos, especially at the higher BRs.

In Germany as example we only get the standard gray, then the brown one and the complete white one as unlockable.

Would be cool if one could unlock the more interesting ones like the ‘special’ desert and CARC camo also by playing and not only via GE.

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I’m on Xbox, so that may also be the difference there too. We all know how games specifically cater to PC players, but will constantly put console players on the back burner (hence why Gaijin has content for PC, has sales for Pc, etc., while Xbox and PlayStation hardly ever get deals beyond SOME holidays).

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The contractual rules for ingame micro-transactions are different for console vs. PC (ie; none for the later).

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I’m fully aware. Honestly, Gaijin just needs to let us console players have Sim and Realistic when we turn our crossplay off.

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yeah thats not what happens in war thunder though lol

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Both Market and GE skins are user generated
Universal camos can be obtained for free and by the time you spade a vehicle you will most likely have both snow and desert camos unlocked

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They should add one grindable camo from rando GE ones. You unlock the first two and then still have an option to get it, if you continue to play the same vehicle. At least it would add some variety to the bland looking vehicles. Too many units have a copy/paste skins. Unlocking them over and over again gets old really fast. The extra rando skin would add some spice and give another reason to continue to play the given vehicle. As it is, the grind is too repetitive and boring.

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This could even be gamified as well. A random ‘coupon’ for you to start grinding a ‘random’ camo of a vehicle, which would otherwise cost GE, but now allows you to unlock it normally.

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The thing is, skin makers rely on the GE purchases of these camos so gaijin can’t really will the amount to existence they would’ve made in GE into existence to pay them

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It could be a time to switch to a better payment model for those skin creators who do make a proper skin.

It won’t impact them that much, but if it were to be brought in, then there would need to be a change made somewhere.

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Camo? you play a bit and after like 200 kills you unlock the desert camo and then snow version which is two from just playing?

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Do it and return when your math gives you " Locking 90% of tank cammos behind a paywall".

And what with that “pretening”? I am a bit confused. I am pretty sure the word is “to pretend” - so I used “pretends” in sentence. Did I made any mistake in that sentence? If so, sorry, maybe it’s some rare EN rule that I am not aware, English is not my native language. Feel free to explain it to me, thanks!

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Grandpa, you can’t get GE wagers anymore.

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I’m just telling you what I would want to see.
Monetizing cosmetics is the proven way to make money.

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Hilarious, I still have like 5. Farming GJN is the way to go for you kids, then :)

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They can also be unlocked via warbonds lol

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I mean there are close to 1600 skins on the marketplace, how far from the truth could it be if we consider how many camos are copy pasted across tanks?

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correction usa,
tropical : unlock
bicolor: unlock
bicolor olive drab: unlock
basic winter: unlock
winter verdant :(unlockable in a few high tier cases)
tricolor (at least 3 of them on most tanks)
desert sand: unlock

can’t say anything for the USSR, and I probably forgot a few camo’s that are on higher tier