isnt it ~1.8 mach?
which is insanely fast for supercruise
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well F22 predates both of them in production time i have heard that they are getting engine reworks for there engines Pw119-100s to the new PW119-180s which some reports say estimated thrust increase of up to 4000LB but there offical thrust output is still classified
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There’s a good compairson chart of various engines made by saffron, parent company that makes Russian engines. Lemme find it.
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So in terms of thrust, it’s still pretty good compared to most engines. In other areas though it has fallen behind
This would be an absolute nightmare to balance.
as expected with using low-balled values?
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It’s more that these engines are 30+ years old while some of the other engines are from the late 2010s
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Whats 30 supposed to mean on this chart XD
Izd 30, the new engines for su57m, first flight around 2017. So it matches/exceeds the f22 engines in most metrics but is 20 years newer
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likely have a earlier SU57 added first not the m as it will first be early F22 early J20 early SU57 ETC
Quite sure it was a patented manufacturer statement. ESR such that as is measured is purely geometric and relies on computer software to guesstimate the baseline effectiveness of a design. To my remembrance a replication of such resulted in 0.2m2.
As for the comparison, no clue. The fact that they’re calling the Su-35 the “Su-27SM2” is beyond me, so I wouldn’t even take it with a grain of salt.
Something like a 5- “Su-50” of sorts?
i dont know how russia does designations for there gets whatever there A model SU57 is will be added
That would be uh… very hard to gauge. If we look at the “production standard” PAK FA demonstrators, there are 4 different airframes that are / were service ready. I prefer to refer to them as “Su-50s” primarily because of my hard-sweat times of Battlefield, but also because those 4 airframes were converted directly from T-50 to pre-serial config.
If you want serial config, which one? 2022’s pre-serials or Dzyomgi’s serial production variants? We’ve only seen Su-57s, as of now the only ones to see direct combat were Su-50s.
This isn’t “from niip”, it’s a snippet from an Aviatrans magazine…
2 seconds of scrolling would show you such.
og publication there, published again by NIIP’s own leadership (Bely, Zagorodniy) on their official website
I couldn’t care less where it was posted, this isn’t even a secondhand source at this point. It’s an article about a book about an interview where a guy said a thing. A man can say whatever he’d like about whatever he wants, but Pogosyan was out of his seat for nearly a decade prior… Makes sense as to why he refers to an aircraft that doesn’t exist.
There is no “domestic” Su-27SM-2. There is no “export” Su-35. There’s an Su-27M that was granted the name Su-35 in Paris, or the Su-35S that came 2 decades afterwards…
If he’s referring to the Su-27SM-2 as a “domestic” version of the Su-35 that he had worked on, he’s simply wrong. That would be the T-10M, simply named “Su-27M”.
If he’s referring to the Su-27SM-2 as a “domestic” version of the “export” Su-35 of the T-10BM program, he’s also wrong. The T-10BM itself was developed for domestic use, with any ideation of “Su-27SM2” not existing.
For the same reason I won’t accept Dennis Muilenburg’s word as gospel, I’m not going to take a single word that Pogosyan said to a journalist.
Better yet, the “leadership” you’re claiming is worth listening to isn’t leadership to begin with. Zagorodniy’s a radar tech, he designs radars for general commission. His input to a flight magazine in reference to an aircraft that seemingly stopped existing a decade and a half prior means nothing to me.
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Wasn’t Su-27SM2 some modernisation project for the Su-27SM but that was cancelled?
i think it was a proposed idea of retrofiring them with the Irbis-E and other electronics from the Su-35S but dropped due to costs
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