Lockheed Martin F-22A Raptor - Transforming the Aerial Warfare

They also state f22 has no real advantage over su-35 looool

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By “weight class” and mission set, the developing Irbis-E corresponds more to the weapon-control radar system of the 5th-generation F/A-22A. One need not be a prophet to state that the confrontation of these systems will largely determine the combat potential (until Russia’s 5th-gen complex appears) of the principal air powers’ force groupings.

It is appropriate to compare the “dueling” capabilities of Su-35 vs F/A-22A. By the stated characteristics, the F/A-22A has no real advantage over a Su-35 with Irbis-E in long-range missile air combat. As for the outcome of close-in maneuvering combat between the agile Su-35 (with thrust vectoring) and a Raptor in its classical configuration—best left unsaid; the comparison would clearly not favor our colleagues across the ocean.

theyre so full of it lol. APG-77, although powerful, is pretty old and the most advanced Western radar would probably be the APG-85. and then the BVR and WVR comparison, its a joke in of itself

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It’s from 2005 so it’s before su57 or even the radar for it was produced, f22 just entered service

wait, so they said all this when they didnt even have R-77-1?

They had r37 not m, normal r37

the Su-35 had it back then?

It had plans for it. This was from before the first su35s took flight lol, that’s still 2 years in the future

so theyre just going and pushing some false claims for advertising? i saw the low observable detection thing you posted in another thread, is that from the same brochure?

Technically not form same article but from same time period and source

Russian MIC claims were something else back then apparently

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I mean to be fair su-35s would apparently be able to engage it due to its much longer ranged missiles back then and to this day still has that advantage over it. It’s just its radar wouldn’t detect f-22…. Although it’s irst probably can

when the irst sees it itll probably be within AIM-120C-5 range anyways. good luck if theres imperfect conditions too

Irst can detect non after burning su30 from 50 km/90 km head on/tail on no after burner… so unless f22 just decides to not use afterburner for some reason su-35 would probably be able to detect it. Also isn’t f-22 lacking irst?

it can supercruise really fast

yes, but it isnt lacking LPI and a pretty advanced ECM suite

raptors are also made with IR signature reduction in mind, its nothing crazy but it should at least help against IRST

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Sometimes propaganda goes too far

more glazing from NIIP, this time i just translated it using translate just on the website. also glazes f35
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F-22 vs Su-57 will be pretty interesting

Does anyone have the og source for the figure on f-22 radar from janes?
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anyone have F22 TWR ? i heard its up there with eurofighters 1.6 ? empty ofcourse

It’s not the most impressive thrust to weight but it’s one of the best, at around 1.62 empty
About the same as su-57 with its old engines, and worse than both j-20a and su-57m, latter of which is closer to ~2 thrust to weight empty