Even then it’s 8+2, and that is a very recent image too
6x r77-1 externally, below intakes pylons
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I wish we get ecm systems first before these stuff, playing with such a low cm count would be horrible
Su-57 gets DIRCM no? That’s a massive advantage, look at how effictive it is on the Z-10 and Mi-28
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But against radar missiles, it won’t do anything
42 chaff that too at top tier with possibly better seeker sounds like a death wish
For something like f22/f35 you would have to allocate half of the cm for flares due to iir missiles
The F-35 barely has any CM so it’s way worse off than the Su-57 and if the raptor has to split its 72 standard countermeausres then that means it only has 36 small chaff compared to 42 large chaff
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can the f-22 double rack rails carry bol cms like the f-15cs?
no evidence it can, and its never been mentioned in any official material regarding BOL
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Do you know which double rail launchers it uses?
BOL (LAU-7 variant, LAU-127 variant, or LAU-128B/A for US stuff afaik) or the F-22 (idk)?
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Yes su57 will still have a bit more, that doesn’t change the fact that all of them will be a pain to play with low cm amount, that’s why ecm is needed
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The positive there would hopefully be Britecloud.
that kinda comes under ECM, thats why we need ECM before 5th gen jets first
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how many?
doesnt f22 gets more? f22 has 4 external dual pylons afaik, +2 wvraam +6 internal bvraam, thats like 16, j20 has 4 external dual pylons and 2 wvraam, and 4 bvraam, with possibly 6 just like su57, bringing it to 14-16
Britecloud could come on any US plane with dispensers compatible with 218 size and integrated with ECM suite/smart dispenser like ALE-47. So it would still put the F-35 at a disadvantage to other aircraft like say the F-15EX in CM count
Only if it’s integrated. It’s explicitly only integrated on the F-35. It’s plug and play but not that plug and play is the key there. Also provides the F-35 with a unique feature.
6x internal pl-15e, 2x internal pl10, 2x external pl10, 8 x external pl15 for total of 18. So it’s the most
oh there are 2x pl10 too? damn
regarding 6x internal pl15e, we gotta wait, i think rework of weapon bays pylon will have to be done like su57.
nonetheless, its probably gonna be meta, not to consider the fact it has like 100 - 200 cm which would help it much more than other 5th gen jets if ecm are not modelled
US ANG and European F-16’s have them, so the rest of the ALE-47 jets should be able to use them as advertised