Gaijin has recently stated that LOAL (Lock-On After Launch)-capable weapons (Brimstone, AGM-114L…) will have this feature removed and implemented as SAL (Semi-Active Laser homing) munitions instead.
While I agree that LOAL is too strong (literally click at random and get free kills) and unfit for the game (could also lead to serious accidental team-killing issues), I believe limiting them to SAL is not the correct course of action.
Instead, I believe these should be implemented as basic FNF (fire-and-forget) munitions, without their LOAL capabilities. That way, they would remain balanced while still bringing increased, already-ingame capabilities to the table. Otherwise, these “new” munitions will be pointless.
It could be argued that “this can’t be done because it would be unhistorical”- but then again: removing their main targetting mode is as unhistorical as it would be to merely modify it to adapt it better to the game.
Fun fact there was a variant of the brimstone with an IR seeker meaning gaijin won’t have to worry about it locking you through smoke (the second reason it isn’t ff) if gaijin simply modeled it as IR.
Personally I don’t want the brimstones to come as ff radar guided missiles but I am content with it coming as an IR ff missile.
Edit: There was no IR variant of the brimstone. It was a different missile meant for the same purpose but was rejected. My apologies.
I already wrote this, but in another topic - I don’t understand why tankers care what exactly hit them, IR/TV Maverick or ARH Brimstone? Especially considering that Brimstone has much smaller warheads. Tankers, for the most part, don’t monitor what’s happening far in the sky and learn about the launch by themselves upon the arrival of the “gift” in the tank.
And yes, gaijin, in ARB, the rework of Brimstone should not lead to an increase in BR, since in this mode it is a PVE weapon.
exactly this. The whole but i can smoke a maverick is a load of BS, it would require prior knowledge one was launched at you, no one has ever smoked one of my mavericks before so they can’t use that arguement
Having tried brimestone its a really good ATGM.
The saddest part is in air realistic the fnf would be very helpful hit more than one ground target.
In ground RB between all the clutter on the ground and no actual ground radar, it can be tedious to find multiple enemies to shoot at. a present they are a much better AGM65E.
Are brimstones meant to fly high like hellfires?
The implementation is poor, a FnF style set up could at least allow the GR4 to move defensively.
I’ve also heard that multispectral smoke could also be implemented to basically negate ARH seeker ATGMs (if implemented on all top tier tanks, gameplay-wise there will be almost no difference from defending against IR seeker missiles ingame)
I also think that adding more map clutter to mess with ARH seeker heads (destroyed vehicles on the map, cars, etc) would further balance the game so it isn’t a case of firing off missiles willy nilly
I’m moreso talking about Longbow Hellfires but I think they are long overdue at this point. Properly implemented Brimstones would further level the playing field from the Kh-38 spam: devs should really consider options to bolster nations to even them out and not just give one or two nations a gimmicky advantage.
It would be possible to at least launch Brimstones in full functionality during the test. I think this happened with the R-73 on the Dev Apex Predators, I could be wrong.
If the whole problem is in the capture after launch, then something similar has already been implemented, in the form of launching IR/TV missiles with the capture of a point on the ground. This is approximately the same. Plus, as I understand it, the missile will have problems detecting stationary targets. And tankers like to stand still the most.
But as for giving the Russians the opportunity to take bases from a safe 50-60 km, then please. Of course. And this launch was from a low altitude and speed. I suspect that from a conditional 10 km and 1.5 Mach, it is possible to throw a Grom for almost a hundred kilometers.
Think we’ve just given up hope at this point. After all, they seem inclined to ignore the hard questions in favour of giving the major nations good kit.
Its an endless loop of the gaijin team telling us its OP cuz these reasons, people bring up things in game that already break that rule, gaijin ignores, bring up the FnF (that isnt functionally any different from already existing weapons), gaijin ignores. So Brits get a glorified Hellfire on a brick plane at top tier.
