LMURs are useless after the update

Honestly I think the only real reason it was worse than any others is that the Pantsir is SACLOS and can kill the other helis if they get lazy and don’t terrain mask, sure the LMUR might have a higher chance to instant kill, but a AH-64E dose have 16 missiles and can double tap each target.
I’ve actually had more problems with the Chinese helis than the NMs or 64Es for what ever reason.

I tested it yesterday and didn’t have any of the issues the OP mentions, the only difference is that the HE warhead sometimes just cannot get through ERA, not really an issue on a Russian vehicle, maybe there will be a point to TUSK ARAT ERA now? but it still has top attack so probably not.

So far the best countermeasure is playing another BR or just not playing the game.

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Would it be possible to swap your eight LUMR missiles for the eight BA11 missiles equipped on the Z-10ME if you find the LUMR unsatisfactory?☺️☺️

Can we kick helicopters sitting at helipads lauching lmurs? I don’t wanna play with them or entertain them bro

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is that so? well why dont we test this against cm-502?


But yeah, LMUR is just so bad…

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Not really lol, kh31s + kh38s have made top tier unolayable

No what they did was bring LMURs down to parity with other FnF helicopters and its munitions, thats why Lofting angles got reduced this major update, its why the warhead got changed from SAP to HE (or the other way around) forgot which was which but it lead to a nerf.

You also for some reason dont want to mention how literally on statshark for 6 months+ straight it has the highest Kills per Death and Kills per Spawn vs all other FnF heli’s. That was MAINLY because of the lofting angles prior to the nerf, which saw it see 60 degree+ AoA’s, making almost every hit a guaranteed kill or disabled to a point the 2nd one would kill.

Then you have the magical force field of anti IR missiles even though Python 5 and 9X should be immune to that bs thanks to IIR seekers but hey, thats not exclusive to the MI28NM problems. but such bs modelling of systems is partly why the MI28NM was #1 for months+ Then we have the god awful ARH problem with helicopters because gaijin refuse to model Rotary blades as having RCS and if you dig into the code and understand a little, Helicopters literally have a smaller RCS vs recon drones (let that sink in for a second)

But dont sit there and argue MI28NM complainers were overexaggerating its performances, they werent, you just lived under a rock or played Russia or had Russia on your team so much you didnt see the problems LMURs were actually causing vs balance.

MITL will again shift the balance to far in the wrong direction because god forbid, helis sitting 10m of the ground using MITL missiles with infinite re-arming is surely balanced while being fully out of sight, immune to IR missiles and basically invisible to ARH missiles when that low to the ground due to multipathing/RCS coding.

Great, now nerf them again with all the other F&F weapons AND fix IRCM AND rotor PD returns.
All the other F&F weapons don’t stop being OP just because one of them stands out as being even more OP.
ALL F&F helis are cancer, the MI-28MN is just the most malignant one and frankly that is probably less due to the MI-28 being much more powerful and more due to the Pantsir shooting the others down.

Tbh, I rarely see anything alse than Suchois and Mi-28NM. I don’t know why…maybe its just the general player count…most players seem to queue up for Russia. There are rarely Apaches or even the Z-10…

Would be nice to discuss the reasons, but its for me really just the Russian air units. Maybe its indeed the raw player count and the fact that russian SPAAs are very op, compared to this multi vehicle nonsense of other nations. So most likely non-rus players are reluctant to bring air. Cause its usually just a waste of spawn points against Pantsir.