Arcade Battles: Lightning F.6 is really too safe when it enters BR 8.0 matches. No one on my team was fast enough to keep up with it… and at those BRs you don’t even have missiles to engage him. At least if you have missiles, then it doesn’t matter if I’m slow because I have missiles, so I have some chance of engaging him, but not even that, since planes at that BR don’t have air-to-air missiles. The technique to the Lightning F.6 is to stay high up and dive to launch missiles or fire a burst of machine gun fire, but above all missiles, which are safer and guarantee an easy victory. Then climb back up, maintain your speed, knowing that no one can engage you in BR 8.0 matches… it’s really too safe.
This aircraft has the same problem as the MIG-21S: they are too low in BR for their actual performance and should be increased to BR 9.7 so that you cannot find them in BR 8.0 matches.
For those who disagree, explain how to tackle a Lightning F.6 with a Fiant G.91 (pre-series). I am curious to hear the excuses you will come up with, because I already know that there will be people who do not want to increase the BR of their precious Lightning F.6 so that they can safely massacre lower BRs. The only way to beat the Lightning F.6 is to hope that it is piloted by a monkey brain who has no idea what he is doing and will kill himself, otherwise anyone with a brain who doesn’t make stupid choices will always have an advantage over the entire BR 8.0 match because you know that no aircraft can touch you at that BR.
Wait arcade jet players are actually real?
More seriously what you don’t seem to realize is that this plane isn’t really too low, it’s the entire BR system that is too compressed at jet tiers. What you want is pure and simple decompression.
To clarify, the Lightning would get obliterated in uptiers if it was higher (it probably already does). The problem is everything is too close together.
Like any other aircraft… That’s why I noticed this inconsistency on Gaijin’s part in keeping vehicles such as the MIG-21S or the Lightning F.6 at such low BRs. And it’s only right to let the developers know that it sucks.
I would say no, since no one touches the Lightning F.6 at low BR matches and it’s quite destructive.
I agree that there needs to be further decompression at the higher aircraft ranks.
Nah, some aircraft are at the edge and could go up without suffering. And others are purely undertiered obviously. But usually asking for a plane to go up is as unfair as someone below your plane asking for yours to go up. It only makes sense to ask for decompression, because the Lightning is probably not undertiered by itself and pushing it up alone will only move the problem from your plane to that plane.
I’d add, if you don’t want to face +1.3 planes just don’t play arcade
I would play more in realistic battles, if Gaijin fixed a bug in the game (I think it’s a bug, because if it’s intentional on the part of the developers, it’s a terrible design choice). If you’re unlucky and get killed at the start of the match, the game thinks you’ve left the match and punishes you unfairly by making you wait 10-8 minutes during which you can’t play… Which is absurd, not only did I play correctly, but I also have to suffer a punishment as if I had left the game, when in fact in realistic battles there is no regeneration in the spawn, you only have one life.
The timeout happens when you crash or eject early, and while it is indeed annoying it doesn’t happen that often once you get better. It’s actually the same way in arcade, but in arcade you have several lives so you’d have to die early in many of them. Overall I’ve always felt balance was worse in arcade because every plane feels like it’s on steroids and so the differences are amplified
If you are killed (i.e shot down by someone else), there is no crew lockout.
If you suicide, by crashing or you J-out you get a crew lockout essentially as punishment for abandoning the game, otherwise, people would join a match, look to see if its a downtier, if it wasnt, they could J-out and queue again until they got a downtier. It would be exploited the hell out of.
The only annoying bit is where you crash due to something beyond your control, like a massive lag spike slamming you into the ground or a teammate forcing you to crash on take-off (though you can at least report the culprit if it was the latter)
Perhaps in high-level matches, but I assure you that at lower levels, no one can keep up with the Lightning F.6, which is why it should not be allowed to enter BR 8.0 matches.
Mate, you’re wrong twice… Lightning is strong in arb, in low BR matches no one can compete with Lightning… and yes, you can find it in BR 8.0 matches. If you don’t believe me, I challenge you to a fair match with Lightning F.6 vs Fiat G.91 (pre-series). You’ll never catch up with it, it’s too fast. What’s more, the Lightning F.6 will just stay at a distance and bombard you with missiles throughout the match while you’re engaging other players, since in arcade matches you don’t have to return to the airfield to reload your ammunition.
I don’t know if you noticed, but the main post clearly states that it’s for BR 8.0 matches in Arcade Battles…And in BR 8.0 matches the Lightning F.6 is OP.
Yes, I understand, thank you… However, I think you misunderstood. The main post is about Arcade Battles, not Realistic Battles… And as both @Morvran_ and I have already told you, you can also find the Lightning F.6 in BR 8.0 Arcade Battles.
Anyway, now that I know, I’ll most likely play Realistic Battles so I don’t have the Lightning F.6 around in BR 8.0 battles anymore…
Mate, the F-104S is at BR 11.0 in Arcade Battles and 11.3 in Realistic Battles… Literally, I’ll never encounter it in BR 8.0 matches in Arcade Battles…
As for the MiG-21S: Everyone knows it’s an OP vehicle at its current BR, and it needs to be increased in BR. Many people have stopped playing BR 8.0 matches in Arcade Battles because of this aircraft. The only ones who defend this aircraft are those who buy it, who are literally players who pay to win.
Yes, I know, but you realise that your entire team literally cannot take on the Lightning F.6 in an 8.0 BR match when all your teammates are using 8.0 BR aircraft… That’s why I asked to increase the BR so that 8.0 BR players don’t have to be forced to be cannon fodder. It’s not a fair match at all.
I will most likely only play realistic matches now.
Uptiers go both ways. As much as 8.0 have issues with 9.3s, 9.3s have issues with 10.7s, if anything the jump is even greater, especially with missile reloading in AB and no CMs. I think the Lightning F6 would be just as screwed fighting things like Mig-21BIS, F-5A(G), heck even the Tornado IDS. Its probably already is fighting things at 10.3/10.7 with all-aspects