Lets talk about the state of Germany

I think they will just do German tree on top tier unplayable. It’s coming to this

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I think it’s time for us (Germany mains) to start organizing a way to reach the devs since our voices are always unheard or fall on deaf ears. The devs have no excuse for gimping or giving Germany doa vehicles.

USSR and USA get everything on time from ships to air and ground except for Germany, which is always two updates behind. From Mig21bis to F4f, Germany mains don’t deserve to play other nations to play German Vehicles :eyes: (Sweden).

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You forgot about the yak141 bullshit mate

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agree

not even the SKIN we got to the pso

The tornado should get the amraam and the asmraam this update and go to 12.0 to test the aams but gaijin hates britain

The problem is not that germany got it is that france should have got it too

And if germany got the 2a7 italy would get the 2a7 making theirs mbt problem better even if the tank would be a 2a6 with better termals

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France should have gotten the df105 aswell without a question. Hope when they add the marder with the clovis turret they will add them for both nations and the df105 for france aswell. Both nations should have both vehicles

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I might not German main but I also want to help at this too it just unfair RU just getting too much

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Italy or hungary doesn’t have a standard 2a7. Hungary has the 2a7V which is to modern for war thunder right now. This tank would be better than the sep3. Italy ordered some german leopard but they would be 2a7Vs or 2a8s which would be much better aswell

The only thing Italy needs now is an MBT at the top level (just in terms of competitiveness) and that’s just what they’re not getting. Germany needs a new MBT. PSO is a 70 ton meme. The next reasonable step was a 2A7 for both nations.

2A7V is too modern but the T-90M and T-90M obr. 2020 are fine? And what’s the problem with 2A7V being better then sep3?

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That they should be added at the same time and ton of tanks are missing in between these leos for germany like the leo2EX, the TVMs, the leo2A7, the leo2a7+, the Leo2revelution and so on.

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2a7V isnt that modern (and i woldnt care if it come the 2a7 and 2a7v to the germans and 2 2a7v to the italians they need decent mbts) its a leo 2a7 with armor what i think should be in the game the 2a7 should had come 1 year ago and the tank is from 2016 the bvm is 2015

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The tanks are missing because gaijin said fuck you to germany for 2 years

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Why do we need all those tanks? I can assure you nobody would be mad if they just added 2A7V after the 2A6 and make the rest event/premium.

The 2A7V brings the hull protection up to the same level as the turret by using what is likely E-Tech. It also has the L/55A1 high pressure gun and an improved drive train, which gives it the same mobility as the 2A4. It is far too modern to add at the moment.

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No T-90M will never be fine as long as there are no counter for other nation such as Leopard 2A7 M1A2 SEP V3 etc
and if they dare to add T-90M and give German just PSO it will be unacceptable and Russia getting enough stuff none stop already it should be enough
and there is Sweden that get more and better Leopard than German which is kinda funny (sure they can have it but so do German)
that three years of waiting and it should not be disappoint.

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Gaijin was supposed to add the amx13-105 instead because its more French. They said it would come the following patch. It never did and I don’t know why gaijin being lazy is somehow the German trees fault. Since the amx13-105 never did get added, I think they should get the df105. I just don’t think it should never have gone into the german tree as many seem to think.