I meant that as a joke but common sense does go out the window quite quickly in this community when it comes to their favourite plane, expensive premium etc.
Good idea but that would be work for Gaijin tho so it wont happen. Also the forum is just a miniscule amount of the entire playerbase
The irony is when the US winrates were bad it was “hehehe US players bad” instead of the 2A7/122 being dominant, now it’s suddenly different when it’s Germany.
No its not, why do you people always make up points in your head that no one brought up
Eh we read the same 7000 comment thread yeah ?
Which they will somehow deny and make it about equipment.
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Because discussing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon im sure you know the rest of the saying.
Are you aware how high the number of extensively good players would need to be to cause these kinds of performance swings?
Yeah so do germay players and ussr players which why you can compare the 3.
Whats happening here is that you created your own narrative where, in your eyes its more likely that there is a statistically significant number of very good players that swing performance of tech trees every update instead of Gaijin just being insanely terrible at balancing new additions which break the balance every single update.
Well because there are some amazing and knowledgable people here that you can have great discussions with, sadly they are severely lacking in this thread rn
I’m well aware of the phrase, however insulting as you may try to be, it isn’t changing what has been said at all. Due to this snide remark alone I won’t be responding to you.
as well as this,
Yes I am well aware of it, there’s around on avarage 100 thousand players daily on the game, off of peak times , right now there is exactly 161037.
If you’d bothered to read the second half of my states, the META chasers, you’d realise that makes up a large portion of people who’m are playing.
Now at top tier it is even more prolific, so the MI28 which, as has been said to you, by I believe @MotorolaCRO , was alrady in game and owned by a large majority of helicopter players. Then it is simple that they would get the LMUR missile on that before grinding out a whopping four hundred thousand RP for the AH64.
Now if we take into account, that it is more meta to do the faster grind for the modification rather than a whole damn helicopter then the results become pretty academic.
The Ah64E for example still rinses lobbies, it’s just there’s far fewer of them.
You also realise that the vast majority of players in TTs’ aren’t using helicopters right?
So claiming that the addition of the helicopters to Russia etc created these vast differences in winrates goes against your own argument.
Ah but you cannot compare the win rates from minor nations ? why not? because they are better with worse kit?
so yeah the use of stats to talk about the kit is invalid.
Yes it’s far more plausible that people change trees , for getting what they want be it a su30, a EF2000 , a leopard 2a6 or 7 or whatever than saying that one helicopter has increased the winrate substantially.
Considering the vast majority of ground players rarely use helicopters, as is seen in game it’s not like it was years ago when there would be 6 helis a team floating around smashing lobbies.
Says the man who cannot handle being told his ancedotal evidence or theories are wrong without having a little tizzy on his own?
Please.
In fact, due to your attitude + the insult, I’ll no longer be continuing this nonsense. Good day.
Apologies, english is my third language, sadly im not aware of every gramatical rule but ill remember for next time.
How so? The Mi28NM has a quarter of the games played that the T80BVM has and is the USSR vehicle with the highest winrate at 63.3%, you can absolutely make a case that its the main driver of USSR performance the past month.
Its not if the general player skill is similar.
Not true anymore, the MI28NM has more games past month than the BUK, helis are not
You have to be trolling at this point. Ive not made a single statement based on anecdotal evidence. You are the guys who constantly bring up their own experience as evidence or use statshaming to try to discredit arguments.
Please do not continue, its not like we were moving anywhere. For someone seemingly interested in war machines you seem to be rather soft huh?
Yet another insult against a person you know absolutely nothing about , yet you want anyone to listen to you?
You’ve no idea who is soft or not, as well as some gall to sit and try call others idiots while you, yourself act like a child.
what isn’t true anymore?
the BUK isn’t exactly extremely used either.
Plus the stats you’re pulling from statshark aren’t exactly that reliable , 3rd party sites never are.
No I am not trolling, I just don’t bother when an absolute child types up stuff like this
“TALKING ABOUT SKILL ISSUE WHILE COMPARING MAJORS IS MOOT, BECAUSE THE AVERAGE MAJOR PLAYER SUCKS THATS WHY THE US SUCKS, GERMANY SUCKS AND USSR SUCKS THAT IS WHY YOU DONT COMPARE THE 3 MAJORS TO MINOR NATIONS STATISTICS WISE THATS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION RN. WHY THE HELL GERMANYS AND THE US PERFORMANCE AND WINRATE DROPPED AND RUSSIAS WENT UP LIKE A T90 TURRET IN EASTERN EUROPE.”
Then expects anyone to bother their bollocks to remain in a conversation with them.
Ah as well as this you are now flagging my replies?
Stop yelling.
Insult, my god dont get your knickers in a twist over a wordplay on your name, jesus.
That helis are unpopular, like i said Mi28NM a quarter of the games of the most popular MBT thats not a small amount.
Ofc once the stats dont agree with you they become unreliable…
Was any of that wrong tho? But glad to see that you dropped the part where you accused me of using anecdotes probably because you noticed that it was bs.
Nope, not me. I used all my flags on PLA16 or whatever his name is
sorry
Guys i highly prefer that you took these matters to DMs if possible.
It’s an insult. That is what the metaphor is designed for, it’s a pointless and frustrating exercise to argue with an idiot, as they will not engage in a logical or constructive way.
That’s the breakdown of it xD
No they’re unreliable in general which is why I tend to stay away from them and gravitate to the actual kit performance, not the player performance with said kit.
Like Abrams being one of the best MBTs in games statistically yet the players make it seem terrible.
Helis are still not very popular, though that number is larger than when I last checked.
You understand why the MI28NM numbers are so high though no?
As we’ve already stated it’s due to 1 the spam of KA50’s back when they where a pain in the butt, leaving people already with it, as well as the good missile being a modification, rather than having to research a whole 400K helicopter for any other tree.
It’s not BS at all, I just don’t have to change what I said or bring it up as the proofs in the pudding above if anyone chooses to read through it all:
Most of the stuff in capital letters was wrong yes.
Then someone is.
Nah it’s done, I’m too unwell to bother with more than what I’ve typed here.
Dang, this topic hasn’t been this active in a while, is this because of the BS change to the SLM?
Thats not how id interpret it, pigeons are smart animals id rather say it complains about an unwillingness in the opposite to “play the game”
Ok then lets talk kit. Dont you think that LDIRCM helis are too strong currently?
Yes i do and i say thats the main reason for the performance increase.
I mean you dont have to change what you said but since there is literally no proof above its a lie and nothing else
Are you allergic to giving examples?
That and the general downwards trend for Germany in the past 1-2 months
Then you don’t understand the language you are using, it’s not something up to interpretation using that metaphor means you are insulting the person you are talking with.
All of them yes.
I never questioned that at all, generally I also find the new SPAA to make all older helicopters completely obsolete, which I tried to use my Ah64 Peten and got slapped down by IRIS T instantly.
Well deserved then. You try to get a big advantage - you get slapped. What’s wrong with that?
Guys please do it in DM or stop. Argues go to nothing…