yes it was a planned variant. but the HAC that existed aside from a paper design was a UHT (PT3) and is still a UHT in a german museum
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It was advertised as a rank 7 premium, which can include the entire BR range.
So, we can expect the German Tiger UHT to receive the missiles on the external pylons like the French UHT introduced in this patch
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JAyRPr5cKI2p
(Also mistral)
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cj6F80mmdFmn
Why shoot at its LFP when you can fire clean through the UFP drivers side and kill the crew?
Yet to happen to me in the abrams or firing at leopards
still gotta take them out to test it but as far as I can see people are just being babies over it.
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Yes I have actually a few times, but that is ancedotal evidence at best.
Its due to not having half its loadouts ? it would be the best with them though in all fairness.
It is one of if not still the best top tier jet for ARB and by extension as cap.
the F18s are pretty silly right now, the fact the18A sits at the same BR as the 16A is ridiculous.
This is not a very good update IMO nearly the same amount of prems as TT.
Or the fact severe damage barely functions at all anymore and actually causes more issues than it initially solved.
Can I ask something on the context of spanish equipment? is it being randomly placed into Italy ? due to proximity? Why is the VRCC placed within Italy but the tiger placed into germany?
Its like canadas stuff being placed all over the trees again just completely ruins any form of spanish lineup or collective gameplay.
Spanish VRCC which is loosely based on a centuar, placed in italy, but the spanish Tiger is placed to germany?
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Was talking 14.0 F18 but I guess thats my bad for not specifically stating it depsite us originally talking 14.0 but okay. Another F16 OCU but at 14.0 is even better the second time.
A nation that does not have a designated sub tree may see its vehicles go in any tree where its most applicable or needed most.
VRCC = Italy
Tiger = Germany
UHT needs the one buff that should distinguish it from the HAC
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cj6F80mmdFmn
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Yeah agreed as well, but generally speaking the F18A at 12.3 is pretty ridiculous as well xD its the best 12.3 in the game by miles
Seeing as Spains a major global player, heck even instrumental in developing the EF2000, will we ever see it as a sub tree or even part of a tree in the future?
It would probably have made more sense with a spanish tree within Italy than hungarian, but thats water under the bridge.
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The documentation presented so far simply supports the statements I made regarding the Tiger HAC.
I wonder how anyone can come to any conclusion other than that France has neither completed development nor ever used the Tiger UHT/HAC and the PARS LR?
The same sources also show that the Trigat LR does not correspond to the PARS 3. How could it be, if you withdraw from the program five years before the end of development?
I can live with the argument that France and Germany developed the Tiger as a joint project, and so France should have access to all variants and their equipment.
Then, to be fair, it should also be done the other way around.
The premium variant is a start.
Now, the Tiger UHT lacks the option for the Mistral and, more generally, the Spike/Mistral variant of the Tiger HAD.
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They wont, by that standard most trees would need to share stuff, hunter F58 comes to mind.
Much like the DF105 and clovis this patch.
While I do agree though
In all fairness, its mantlet is/was BETTER protected for the longest time (it even eats/ate spall much more reliably), so much so I had made a report on it to bring the 2A7V to HU’s level protection wise:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/a2drqJJ1T155
It’s been 8 month since then :P
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Quite a few others would be given to other nations and i can tell it would cause massive outrage.
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Like the LRF for the chieftain, been over 15 months I believe now xD
now that is a wild report, did not realize that massive of a difference
Good lord
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Then Gaijin need to make a decision to stop splitting bits and bobs here and there, or go all out.
this way just annoys everyone so far.
It gets worse tbh, cus there’s another 10 screenshots that I’ve included in the “additional files” section that isn’t visible to y’all, but basically the 2A7HU has/had on average twice to thrice the protection of the 2A7Vs all over the mantlet, in some spots as much as 5 times, examples:
And yeah, 2A7HUs mantlet basically eats all spall, making it much more resiliant to crew damage.
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I mean a good example is the Trinity SPAA. Its a joint project of Bofors and the Swiss but who gets it? The vehicle was assembled and did almost all of its testing and assembly in sweden.
Imo both should get it. Its a joint project but you have people who want it for one nation exclusively. Same deal with the begleitpanzer ect ect. People will argue that giving it to both would take the unique aspect of the vehicle away.
Realistically you’re going to make one group upset either way
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This is why we can’t have nice things.
That is utterly ridiculous
There is clear evidence of France conducting use of the TRIGAT LR in testing:
“In service” has never been a mandatory requirement for consideration.
Reports are welcome with clear evidence to show spesifically how the TRIGAT should be performing differently: Community Bug Reporting System