says the nation player who is getting their extra sausages with australian f-111 to replace their not functional f-111k
and is getting the canadian ram 2 because they are crying so much
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Rip japan though i guess we have gotten quite a few boats since gaijin rarely adds ground stuff.
Thanks. I didn’t mean to say that Germany got an insane amount of vehicles in 2023, just that they did get a similar amount as the US.
US got a lot of planes in 2023, but US ground got kind of neglected during 2023 in comparison, so that balances it out.
RAM 2…and the USA are getting the Skink
The F-111 is an easy addition otherwise Britain would have had a boat and the Stormer AD
It’s a simple low effort solution.
ohhh poor you
u want me to count all the low effort solutions for germany?
you are speaking like the f4f ice was a completly new model.
likewe didnt get copy pasta low tiers etc
you are hating on germany for the sake of hating germany nothing more.
not able to back up any of your claims
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Is there anything planned to buff the Tornado in GRB? Just yesterday I tried to use it again. I got some air kills in GRB, but these GBU’s are just too hard to use…holding lock for a lenghty time and when you bank away cause of SAM fire, the bomb goes nuts. Its just so useless. Its the highest TT Strike Aircraft without strike…just bombs…these just don’t work at high BRs.
Eh. They’re lacking options in air above rank V, but ground is quite solid at high tier and below 7.0. Overall it’s one of the best nations in ground, and decent in air, but not the best.
Idk, GBU’s have been buggy for me, i need to do some testing and see if its just me or the game.
japan: 
That explains a shot I did yesterday.
A unique airframe isn’t “low-effort”.
As for the general concern I see.
One shouldn’t obsess over added vehicles for the additions will stop in due time.
Play what you love, and if something new comes that you love you have an addition to the already large collection of stuff you love to play. If not, you still have the collection of stuff you love to play.
And yes, I do look forward to a majority of things everyone else here does as well.
Hey at least with the ASEAN sub we should have way bigger lineups (cope)
surely its comming next update
cries
Agreed, more so it was produced for the US tree and replicated for the British
It is far worse than any other tech tree in terms of Top Tier Air.
Gen 4 air (mostly)came out with Apex Predators update, December 2022.
(US had already received the F14 in Danger Zone, June 2022)
Germany received an event tornado and the ASSTA1. They were useable in the beginning for base bombing, nothing much else.
USA received TWO (2) F16s.
USSR received Mig29.
Other nations received F16s.
Germany FINALLY received the first Mig29 (first top tier air rb useable plane) for update Sky Guardians, March 2023.
With this update came UPGRADED F16s, Yak 141.
(Now Germany are behind and have been since the first iteration of the new gen jets.)
La Royale, June 2023, brought F14 to America, TWO (2) SU variants for USSR, Upgraded Italian Tornado.
Germany still behind. (Not talking about other nations being behind as well, just Germany.)
Sons of Attila, September 2023, brought ANOTHER upgraded F16 for US, Upgraded Mig29 for USSR.
Germany still behind.
it wasn’t until Kings of Battle, October 2023, that Germany finally received their Top Tier Air RB compatible jet. Neither Major nation listed (USSR or US) received an upgrade to the current F16/F14/Mig29.
Germany can compete here.
Air Superiority, December 2023, brought F15s to US/JPN//Israel, Su-27 for USSR, Gripen, J-11 for China.
Germany received a premium Tornado (after BR changes rendering it essentially useless.)
Germany is BEHIND AGAIN.
Alpha Strike, March 2024 brought in new Gripen, not much else, F20 is meh.
Germany still behind.
Seek and Destroy, June 2024, brought in AMRAAMS, Upgraded F15, AV8B+, for US, Upgraded Su27 for USSR, Upgraded Tornado for Britain, Upgraded J-11 for China, and Germany received the F4F Ice.
Please do not make me go into detail about the ICE. 3rd Gen airframe is UNUSEABLE in Air RB, anyone saying otherwise is full of it. Also no HMD, radar search modes.
Germany is STILL behind and this time the gap is MASSIVE.
Dance of Dragons brought in Upgraded A10 for US, upgraded Su24 for USSR, Jf-17 and J-10 for China, Upgraded F16 for Israel.
Germany still behind.
Let me say, I DO NOT care about lower tier aircraft. I do not care about how Germany performed a decade ago. I do not care their Rank 4 stuff is good. This is about top tier German air.
Please let me know if I got anything wrong, but this essentially sums up my experience with air.
Germany has been perpetually behind ALMOST every other tree in regards to air since Gen 4 introduction, and some trees even has not-fully-incorporated jets added.
This is why Germany players got VERY excited about the last leak, as we MIGHT’VE been able to have a plane that can compete at Top Tier (Since October 2023)(F-18) . Hopefully whomever was saying horrible stuff about Germany players regarding getting the F18 before the US can read through this and start to understand our viewpoints as German mains.
I can get into Helicopters if we want, but its in vain as we all know that Germany is lacking HARD in that department, along with the numerous amount of bug reports for the EC665 Tiger UHT.
I can also get into SPAAs, but again, I think we can all agree that its LACKING. Comparable nations have more Missiles Ready, 20mm Cannons, Radar that can track multiple objects, Missiles with 13m of proxy fuze. etc.
I can go into more specifics regarding missile count, etc, if needed.
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it still counts, since you want additions so much
uk players demanding canadian and australian vehicles all the time but then comaplain when they get it
No need. I grinded out the ICE before it got the 2 ARAAM +2 AIM9 stock loadout. It was horrible. Even on the Dev server it was DOA. There’s a reason why everyone was showing off the new F-15 and Su-27, then just saying “Germany is getting a phantom…moving on”. It’s why I am under the impression Gaijin should just folder it with the Late when the F-18 comes (if/when it eventually comes). If Germany doesn’t get a reasonably competitive TT jet soon then no one is going to care for TT German air.
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I recently got the ICE, 420,000 RP is bat s**t insane for the jet.
I honestly don’t really care for the F18, would prefer the Eurofighter.
Its already happened. There’s been an outcry for fixes to the Tiger UHT that have been disregarded for years (8 missiles, vs 12-16 missiles at the same BR, No Turret). EVERYONE told G that the F4F ICE was going to be DOA when they released the DevBlog for it.
One can think that there is TOO LITTLE players using the vehicles, and that might be why they haven’t been fixed, as they don’t have enough data. Another reason might be that the people who DO have the vehicles, are simply more skilled players, and they can work around the shortcomings. If its the former, then one can assume that its BECAUSE of the lack of useable vehicles, which leaves us in a peculiar catch-22.
People don’t play top German air → Cant fix cause not enough data → People wont play German air.
Horrible situation all around.
I’ve said before that they can work in some of their magic to give Germany a useable fighter, as has been done in several other nations that were lacking, but alas, it hasn’t. When the F18 did leak, the amount of CRAP coming from players of nations that have 8+ Tier VIII aircraft was insane. So maybe they won’t do it anymore? Guess we’ll see.
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I was really holding my breath when the F-18 got leaked but then someone mentioned the ICE…
I knew what was to come after that. Tried to make it work but its just not fun to play, even its missile loadout is subpar.
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I mean even for someone who sticks to ground for 80-90% of the time it was kind of obvious that the 18C wouldn’t come as a time exclusive to anyone.