Lets talk about the state of Germany

Still got passed to devs so there is a high likelihood of those coming

No just no, stop trashing up the german tree with crap that is not belonging there.

Just give the ICE IRIS-T and wait for the EF2000. By far supirrior solution. Let the americans keep there toys.

The ICE getting IRIS-T was already denied lol?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/kSgHEyXPUvyc

We’re not even close to it coming. Some speculation earlier this year was that we would get it by December but that’s looking unlikely now. With the way the ICE is in the current meta, it would’ve been better to not add it. You’re lucky to even see a single one being played, if at all.

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IRIS-T s not a missile in game currently. This is an intentional decision as it is an advanced missile over where we currently are in missile / aircraft technology. Therefor this is not considered a bug or reportable historical suggestion currently.
No denied per se, still can be added without a problem and the ICE would be more competetive outside of just lobbing aim 120´s,

With how powerful the missile is, it’d be forever before we get it added. Though I’m not opposed to getting it since it was always DOA.

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We have no say, and it has been unofficially confirmed, anyway.

We might see the ICE as a test plataform like the SU-25 was for the 73, but it will take some time. I doubt we are seeing such missiles before the end of 2025.

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The only reason I said that is because it seems like the swiss units are being added to the german tree, therefore if gaijin planned to add the F-18 in december update for multiple nations it would seem more likely than the EF, at least in my opinion.

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Cheers, I was going to report this myself this weekend but forgot. Forwarded.

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DM83

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Just got the ICE.
Pretty miserable to play so far lmfao.
Turns like a bus, no HMD, slow, Radar search modes nonexistent.

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Was the DM 83 the KE2020Neo?

if yes it is now getting qualified for use by the german army

I’ll buy it come the big sale, and I’ll probably bring napalm and flank like there’s no tomorrow IF I crew it…

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Yes.

coming from the Mig 29G, its night/day.
Its very sad to see the ONLY other option for a top tier German aircraft to be the WORST one of any nation.

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IMG_1956

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Yeah. The state it’s in is barely usable at best.

according to rheinmetall’s patent it should be a penetrator of 754 mm in lenght

How exactly is moving both pumas up in br considered ‘decompression’. The pumas are just compressed at a different number now.

Wait what!? Why the hell are the puma’s going up they are already trash at 10.0 how is moving them up in br somehow going to make them better