Lets talk about the state of Germany

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How is this guy a tech mod?

You can see that the bottom skirt is much thicker holy shit. They change it from 100mm to 50mm based on “trust me bro”, but want entire manuals to revert it, lmao.

The state of this game.

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Also:

Tape measure, they literally are 110mm. As such I dunno what bro is yapping about.

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YO!
Let’s go!

nah you need to have a manual with exact measurements and if it has? composite in it a detailed cut off

“without leaking documents”

honestly i’m impressed that you still try
but grateful for your trying to get leopards fixed :D

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xIiMf0NKeDBT

Remade the report…

Go figure. Can’t even talk to the guy because he doesn’t use the forum. Amazing.

Also, the “two layers” in question:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1181077093094805527/1213227169761722368/unknown.png?ex=65f4b4d9&is=65e23fd9&hm=5b508c64e9c44fc142bb15e715dbde0d7357738f5193f9f4a99fe5e9d577fd09&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1347&height=630

This guy SHOULD NOT be a tech mod.

They are totally equal, am I right? Not like the top layer thins out to about ~30mm so that the bottom skirt can go over it, but nooo, they are both 50mm! Trust me bro!

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Depressing, measuring armor thickness is not enough for them. They want the actual blueprints for the tank.

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i guess write david bowie, he is a higher tech mod if i understoof it right

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@_David_Bowie Hey mate, mind checking out this report?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xIiMf0NKeDBT

Vladuxa closed it, but he’s wrong about the skirts being 50 + 50, they should be 50mm + 110mm, with the top skirt thinning out to 30mm when the bottom skirt overlaps it, for a total of ~140mm + 20mm air gap. I included photos above.

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Omg these tech mods go from bad to worse…

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Now they broke the penetration of DM502?

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NOOOOO it can’t be

You seem to be ignoring the other stuff I said and instead focusing on the Taiwan thing.

Guys, seriously already.

CHECK. THE. VOLUMETRIC. VALUES. (Armor dimensions at point and effective thickness at impact angle 0º).

Leopard 2A7V’s skirts are perfectly fine. Before making tons of wrong bug reports and presumably calling me out as wrong, first make sure and double-check stuff, please.

Leopard 2A7V’s side skirts are flawlessly modelled. It’s the other Leopards that need correction.



@FurinaBestArchon @GodIno

If you switch out 50mm for 110m, sure. Inb4 you say “it’s just the dev server”, don’t - really just don’t, the last two times that happened, you know… PSO & 2A7V armour models. Also the comment made by vlad makes me think they will lower the volumetric thickness of the lower skirt as well, just so they can be 50 + 50.

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Volumetric armor pieces never have the true armor as set value.

Challenger 2’s turret base is stated as 38mm thick, yet it’s 51mm thick in most areas. Many cast pieces are set as 50mm thick yet reach up to 150mm thick.

The “value” in the “statcard sense” is meaningless. The one that matters is the volumetric one you get when you point the cursor at the piece.

I don’t want to get too deep into this argument, but the dutch army still decides their own procurement.

For example we are buying a norwegian shorad system instead of going with the German system (which is called skyranger iirc? Or did I mix up the name?)

That’s two different types of “SHORADs”. SkyRanger is a VSHORAD, what the Netherlands are buying from Norway, which uses IRIS-T is more comparable to the Boxer IRIS-T (I mean they perform the same function since they both use IRIS-T).

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Yeah I had a small feeling I was putting the wrong name there, thanks!

Like… can’t you see the real value of that piece ingame is 120mm? Even more than the 110 measured mm.

Ingame, right now, it’s 50 + 120. I don’t know why you all suddenly decided to start making bug reports about this piece supposedly being 50 when it’s clearly modelled as 120.