Depressing, measuring armor thickness is not enough for them. They want the actual blueprints for the tank.
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i guess write david bowie, he is a higher tech mod if i understoof it right
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@_David_Bowie Hey mate, mind checking out this report?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xIiMf0NKeDBT
Vladuxa closed it, but he’s wrong about the skirts being 50 + 50, they should be 50mm + 110mm, with the top skirt thinning out to 30mm when the bottom skirt overlaps it, for a total of ~140mm + 20mm air gap. I included photos above.
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Omg these tech mods go from bad to worse…
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NOOOOO it can’t be
You seem to be ignoring the other stuff I said and instead focusing on the Taiwan thing.
Guys, seriously already.
CHECK. THE. VOLUMETRIC. VALUES. (Armor dimensions at point and effective thickness at impact angle 0º).
Leopard 2A7V’s skirts are perfectly fine. Before making tons of wrong bug reports and presumably calling me out as wrong, first make sure and double-check stuff, please.
Leopard 2A7V’s side skirts are flawlessly modelled. It’s the other Leopards that need correction.
If you switch out 50mm for 110m, sure. Inb4 you say “it’s just the dev server”, don’t - really just don’t, the last two times that happened, you know… PSO & 2A7V armour models. Also the comment made by vlad makes me think they will lower the volumetric thickness of the lower skirt as well, just so they can be 50 + 50.
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Volumetric armor pieces never have the true armor as set value.
Challenger 2’s turret base is stated as 38mm thick, yet it’s 51mm thick in most areas. Many cast pieces are set as 50mm thick yet reach up to 150mm thick.
The “value” in the “statcard sense” is meaningless. The one that matters is the volumetric one you get when you point the cursor at the piece.
I don’t want to get too deep into this argument, but the dutch army still decides their own procurement.
For example we are buying a norwegian shorad system instead of going with the German system (which is called skyranger iirc? Or did I mix up the name?)
That’s two different types of “SHORADs”. SkyRanger is a VSHORAD, what the Netherlands are buying from Norway, which uses IRIS-T is more comparable to the Boxer IRIS-T (I mean they perform the same function since they both use IRIS-T).
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Yeah I had a small feeling I was putting the wrong name there, thanks!
Like… can’t you see the real value of that piece ingame is 120mm? Even more than the 110 measured mm.
Ingame, right now, it’s 50 + 120. I don’t know why you all suddenly decided to start making bug reports about this piece supposedly being 50 when it’s clearly modelled as 120.
@Torpid_Hunter
Seems to be functioning. So likely a statcard error on the pen part.
However no longer causing over-pressure for entire tank.
To keep it accurate? Aren’t you the guy who always whines about things not being accurate, regardless of the nation they come from, how is this any different?
It doesn’t matter if it’s the model, the armour, the mobility, etc, in case you haven’t grasped the idea yet… WE ARE AWARE THAT THE ARMOUR VALUES HAVEN’T CHANGED, what we care about is the vehicle being accurate, as such the lower skirt should be described as 110mm. Can’t stomach it? Your problem.
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Hey,
Unfortunately, what you showed doesn’t mean the plate is 120mm thick or anything really, it just shows how much that plate would withstand if hitted and shows everything, not that plate only, which is the problem, it tells you its 120mm because there is the backplate, which adds another 50mm or so.
What shows how much thick the composite screen is, in fact. The thickness, and currently it looks to be wrong.
Actual dimentions of said plate+backplate.
Its missing thickness as you can see.
Hey! Not really. That’s the case of the armour viewer; but in the simple armor mode, it’s the physical thickness.
As of now, main plate is 120mm thick, and backplate is 50mm thick.
To drive the point home:
Both pieces are described as 50mm, well, one of them is clearly not like the other.
Alas;
Both of them are “50mm” in the armour viewer.
Because, right now, main plate is 120mm thick and backplate is 50mm thick.
All you are going to achieve with these reports is for Gaijin to make it 50 + 50, as that tech mod suggested it should be. All because of a meaningless number when the actual modelling is correct.