Lets talk about the state of Germany

Man. who the fuck is the one is doing this shit? Who hired that man?

The misconceptions I refer to is Germans thinking that the Dutch and German armies are the same now, thus warranting a sub-tree.
This is false. They are very much two separate armies simply working together.

Dutch army has different procurement, acquisition, doctrine, mission sets, training standards, you name it.

Once again I pose the question: is NATO one army because of a shared command structure?

Additionally, a Dutch sub-tree doesn’t make sense because Germany literally doesn’t have enough room nor need for one.

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@FurinaBestArchon Time for a new report? Im ready

the dutch army gets integrated into the bundeswehr command structure

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Answer my question.

If you wanna, I don’t really have the energy.

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that question has nothing to do with the topic neither is compareable
respond with sense or cut it

its fine saying the netherlands shouldnt be in the german tree bc they dont need new vehicles,
but coming up with shit that simply isnt true doesnt help you
netherlands and germany have strong military and cultural ties
and now even stronger ties after dutch army getting integrated into the bundeswehr command structure

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I have and you ignored the majority of the comment, which I didn’t complain about.

Again: if you have something to say, say it. If you don’t, don’t.

I mean we have sub trees that operate differently from the nation they were added to, not to mention things like China and Taiwan .

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China and Taiwan aren’t sub-trees of one another tho.

huh?

read the articles I sent…

The Dutch army integrated into the Bundeswehr and their command structure… The Germany army has command over the Dutch troops and equipment. The Dutch army can still decide wether or not to deploy the troops where the Germans want to, but for the rest everything is decided by the German army.

It is not a shared unit, it’s an actual integration of the Dutch army into the German 10th Tank Division. Sure, Dutch and German army are 2 different armies. But with the integration of Dutch army divisions into the German army and it’s command structure it has essentially become 1 (German) army, this is something completely different from Nato or nato command structure.

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…only if the Dutch permit it.

I’m not denying the integration, I’m simply denying the claim that some German mains like to make that it is now “their army” and using it as a poor excuse to get a sub-tree they don’t need.

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@Smin1080p well well well… after a whole year, the time has come to ask where the major Puma fixes are, since they’ve been missing in action for 2 years now. Y’know, armour, MUSS actually working, AHEAD etc…

he is on vaccation or something

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Just looks like a visual correction.
After all, those aren’t the physical models of the round, as the physical models are invisible.


I’m hyped for a 9.0 CAS though I’d prefer it be 8.7.

You won’t get answer from smin he is away for week

Both done.

APFSDS length
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/lNEUoEVT0H2y

Composite side skirts thickness
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/76eBc4gfHncF

@FurinaBestArchon @MuricaxSuffers @SPANISH_AVENGER

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Oh, in fact, Leopard 2A7V is the only correct one, not the others!

The side skirts are made in TWO pieces that overlap, observe!

The issue here is every other Leopard’s skirts NOT overlapping and being modelled as if one was on top of the other.


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@FurinaBestArchon @Toxindragon Any Info about this??

Yes; as you can see, Leopard 2A7V’s model is accurate. It’s the other ones that are outdated and need to be updated like this.