Lets talk about the state of Germany

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What has been done to the Me-262s is nothing less than a crime.

With new devblogs starting within the coming weeks I think Germany will get a strong AARH carrier of F-4F ICE.
Their ground is missing a better light tank to TAM 2C presently.
PUMA SPIKE still in dev.
MBTs are strong.
Non-AARH jet is still competitive.
F-4F at 10.7 is still strong.

A lot of good, some arguably negative things.

You really have to stop overhyping the capabilities of the F-4F ICE. Its going to get stomped by pretty much everything at top tier, especially because the other nations will get 4th Gen jets with AMRAAMs

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It’ll be dead on arrival if it doesn’t get IRIS-T to boot.

Which will not considering how powerful IRIS-T is.

İts much better then anything we have in game, even better then most other latest production Ir missiles.

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It’s fine if we get a limited number of them to start, but at this rate the F4F ICE is going to be placed at the same BR as the top 4th gen jets. It won’t be able to compete.

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How exactly is that strong?
The F-4F is outright the worst platform for that among all nations in game currently

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Exactly, it’s gonna be limited to standard AIM-9L.
There is the AIM-9L/I but Gaijin hasn’t even given that to the Tornado which literally has 2 missiles max.

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But on a F4 airframe will it go to top tier? I think it will be a AMRAAM carrier at 12.3. Or something in that line.

most likey along side the other 3rd gen fox carriers

Gaijin will use the excuse that it has AMRAAMs and therefore cannot be placed lower

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same BR as an f15
laugh 3

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Accurate reaction

Most likely they will fit it with Aim-9M considering rails and FCS is more then capable of using.

what could the f4f ice carry in terms of air to ground?

Apparently still just the 2 Mavericks, although @dotEXCEL made a report for the Pavespike targeting pod for guiding GBU-10s missing from the F-4F Late but that sadly went nowhere

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People said the same about Mig-29 SMT and EJ Kai, but both are still extremely competitive aircraft.

@Karmafelds
IRIS-T would make F-4F ICE 13.7 minimum. Just as AIM-9Ms make 9.7 Harriers 11.7.

@NoodleCup31
F-4F ICE/EJ Kai aren’t the worst afterburning platform 11.7 or higher. J-8F and JH-7A are.
And J-8F is doing perfectly find despite being the worst platform to put Python 3’s on.

yeah classic gaijin :-(

Remember when goofy devs claimed 100g weight of PMC 287 is after the sabot’s removed from the equation, and we told them it’s wrong and it should be at least ~160g back on the old forum?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1181077093094805527/1205291124105945118/slide-44.png?ex=65d7d5d5&is=65c560d5&hm=3106a40d6c63ef8172050bd77976aa42667f4f7ad546df4403da2c2e194e4601&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1126&height=843

Here y’all go. It’s in fact 165g. Primary evidence as well.

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