Lets talk about the state of Germany

never said that. you are twisting our words. We complain about sweden having literaly the better german top tier. Thats the main problem of the mater. We never said we are better of the some other minor nations. You just falsely assume so.

Besides that we just want our vehicles to be as real as they are. And every nation is working on that

This is what I’m talking about

Sweden is the problem with 3, newer well armored vehicles, and rounds on Par with 3BM60…
Compared to Germany, with 4, newer well armored vehicles, and the best round in the game.

if thats what makes you sleep better, sure.

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So you would just take it when people start calling another tree the better version of your own?
There was a whole massacre because britain got the gripen c and because US received the F15A.
You are saying them should have just stayed quite as well?
You are a Hypocrite nothing more

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When it comes to the Air? US mains are divas.

But this is the ground forum…

And what makes this different???

You realy pick your arguments as you like, besides that we talk about air here as well, we cant give it more tags. Just go , you have shown more then enough you dont care about anything and only wanna complain about germany. But its fine for other nations

First you complain about the year of introduction into service, now you’re complaining about capability.

Make up your mind whiner.

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the guy has clearly no coherent thought line, and just picks as he needs it

For the literate among us, we can connect the dots that there are only 2 peer armor techs in the world, Germany, and the US. (Sorry Brits) So when it comes to comparable technology, that’s the only place where Introduction date matters.
All the tank trials were comparable between US and Germany with contemporary tech… hence to be balanced it would need to be contemporary… but Germans just get 5-10 year newer versions by comparison.

Real world =/= game. You’re changing the goalpost. So much for “literate”.

All the tank trials were comparable between US and Germany with contemporary tech… hence to be balanced it would need to be contemporary… but Germans just get 5-10 year newer versions by comparison.

Fewer versions inbetween?

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This entire convo reads like its something out of a surrealist sketch, because its so absurd

the other nations tanks are just as well armored gajin just doesnt wanna buff them or they are not enough sources available. You dont think everythingt as its in the game is like reality? jesus you are lost

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I’m very aware… in the real world M1A2 SEP has additional hull armor. In game, it’s using 1985 M1IP hull armor…

Well, since they skipped the C tech Leo2A4 from the late 80s/early 90s and went straight to A5… sure?

genius, he is talking about nearly every tank in the game

Genius, I know. I was posting an example. (A relevant one at that.)

That you’d have complained about all the same? DOI has no relevancy on capability, since different nations achieve different states of technology at different times.

For most, true.

For the US vs Germany?

No… they’ve had comparable contemporary tech since MBT-70…

That’s why they’re always top 2 in tank selection competitions.

you are contracidcting yourself again and again. Release year of the tanks has absolutely nothing to do with in game performance. Its gajin that doesnt give them the full capabilities. The year of the tank has those nothing to do with their capabilities in game. Man your mind is trough the gutter

again SWEDEN, not germany

I can imagine the screeching if Leopard 2A4 w/DM33 was introduced next to the M1A2.

That’s exactly what happened, in reverse. Yet they still complain. ;)