Lets talk about the state of Germany

What’s the point of having the best round when you can’t pen tanks like t80bvm etc in ranges of under 500 meters ?
When you should be able to ?
Meanwhile ru tanks keep it up with point and click :)

Its funny when you see t80bvm vs t80bvm and they struggle to aim for a single weakspot lol

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What I am about to say probably won’t be very popular, but it should be said. I think the German Su-27 is pure cope. The sources that suggest the GDR had ordered the Su-27 are dubious. Unless I am missing something, the main source seems to be East Germany’s Military: Forces and Expenditures by Keith Crane of RAND however this was written in October 1989, a month before the fall of the Berlin Wall and Reunification. It does not have benefit of primary material from the GDR as such the report only contains an analysis of information that was publicly available at the time the report was made. Furthermore, a later publication of the source used by Crane (The Military Balance from The International Institute for Strategic Studies) makes no mention of Su-27s by the GDR. From the 1990-1991 report:

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Furthermore, I have searched the Bundesarchiv for any reference of GDR interest in the Su-27 and have come up short. Books written on the GDR air forces also make no reference to any interest in the Su-27. Ultimately, I think the inclusion of the Su-27 was an error on the part of Crane.

I am mainly a ground rb player so I may be biased but shouldn’t we try to get a plane that would be more useful for cas? We already have Mig-29G while our only okay cas option is the IDS.
We’d need an subtree for that tho since Luftwaffe is lacking in that department.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xEXOBZYwt3sQ

Why PSO’s two parts of side composite screen changed to HHS box?

Well, no disagreement there. As it stands, the German tree won’t have any multirole fighter until the Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 2, which is likely years away.

My point was that there is simply no reliable evidence the GDR ordered or considered the Su-27. The early Su-27 isn’t multirole anyway.


hmm, It seems like hovering turret problem have been fixed. or not?

No, you can still see the turret isn’t sitting in flush with the hull. If you go into the x-ray, the turret ring is basically not covered by armour from the side.

Also, DM43 velocity bug report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jyWW3cdU9BRm

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hmm, still 122s are have better KE protection then 2A7V…
Gaijin wants to reject about D-tech composite, then they should at least make it the same.
isn’t it, smin? @Smin1080p

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I dunno how they can reject the D Series hull whilst also acknowledging that the hull is upgraded with composite armour behind the fuel tank… Its pretty clear the hull was reworked from the 2A4

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at this point I lost any faith into them getting something correct about german tanks
if i take a look at ru tanks screens and vids are enough proof
but for nato tanks you neeed All sources and at best a screenshot of the era/armor packe so kgb learns something as well…

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thank god i am finaly unbanned, guys just a friendly reminder its the weekend. The Devs are human too.
Lets wait until during next week then we should see actual big changes coming

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Good to see you again. Be careful next time ;)

I hope so.

I’m surprised I haven’t been banned yet, so we’ll see. I’ve created more problems then I’d have expected.
Good to see you’re back then.

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did one of the nonos, questioing trickzzter decisions

wait you can get banned? Damn I was arguing yesterday with Uk mains about the boxer and didn’t get banned

as long as its not off topic or offensive or politics then your fine

oh you can fight with users all you want, if it no insults are thrown

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To be fair we have plenty of other option before boxers

yeah i dont know why UK wants boxers that much, the only Uk boxers are with MGs or Javelins. You just have no releationship with caliber gun boxers

Well maybe Australian CRV boxer but thats that