Lets talk about the state of Germany

Nice to see that the VT-ETB II config with the beak armour wasn’t just a demonstrator for the 2A8.

was that sth different then the other leos have?

Same armour as the 2A7V. The early version still used a normal 2A7 hull as far as I can tell.

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ah ok fair, it realy is annoying that many say that those pictures are from the 2a8.

20G when rotated in the correct direction.
However, it rotates.
So 13G is more than 10, and likely accurate.
I don’t know rotational physics math to confirm or deny 13Gs sadly.

Will see

I don’t even know what 3M37M is cause I don’t do Soviet missiles.
However, it’s not Igla.
Besides 13G IS 20G because Stinger rotates, and is only 20Gs momentarily during its rotations.
NATO HEATFS is still good enough for me to kill BVMs back to back.

@ARK_BOI The helicopter dies, I know cause I used it against one a couples weeks ago. Usually they don’t get close enough for me to kill them cause SPAA kills them or a fighter kills them.

Use to be better and more realistic than nowadays why? you might ask because cries babies Russian mains can’t do heli rush can gaijin nerfed them (in RU forum i’m sure it a mess there anyway)

Leopard Dovbleg today?

Funny about you complaining about that because for example DM12A1 Leopard 2s get is absolutely correct, as well as 3BM18M heat soviets get, however theres only better HEAT shells (3BK31) existing which are tandem heat and can pen 700mm of armour behind ERA.

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Source: Gesamtwerk; in accordance with the Esut article, this is likely how the Leopard 2A7(V)A1 will look like when delivered.

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Any assumptions on the weight? Just asking because I heard to install Trophy APS on Abrams you need to install some weight in backwards of turret to balance it out, basically doubling the weight Trophy would give alone. 2A7V weights around 66 tons having same engine IIRC.

Leopard 2s are already very front heavy (because of all the armour), so unlike the Abroomz, they’ve no need for counter-weights, if the weight cutting measures described for the Leopard 2A8 and 2Ax are not taken, although no hard figures are given, I’d estimate about ~67.5 metric tons (Trophy HV is cited to weight a ton).

Also Abroomz mounts its counterweights on the cheek, because the Trophy HV is mostly located in the back of the turret.

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Cant wait to use the Leopard 2a7v.

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Ive played a few matches in the Ozelot yesterday and I can confirm that Stingers are still garbage.
I shot 3 Stingers at a Su-25, coming at me, and he evaded all by just simply pitching a bit up or right or left.
So this buff didnt change much for them sadly.

I will play more matches tho, mayby I just had bad luck yesterday.

Germany should’ve gotten the T-72MÜV-2. Iirc it has extra hull Armour

has the same armour as the m1 that we have in game

I thought it got the extra 16mm plate the the T-72A got?

the m1 also has it, the regular M model was the one without the 16mm plate. in game the plate is also modeled.

arent those the old sideskirts?