Lets talk about the state of Germany

True, but considering how Gaijin tends to severely uptier anything with missiles despite the effectivness of them, perhaps it would be better to add the early prototype without any. And leave the missile uptier to the already-implemented one we have in Hungary.

also another thing i remember is the book of rules for gaijin addition of vehicles, for such cases it went like this vehicle build by (german company), went to australia and trialed but not adopted in this case it goes to the country of origin or country who made it, there are cases where vehicles are build and trialed by same country or under collab and get added to such country like the Boxer Cockerill 3105

this one has missiles, lemme show u the fun pic, that area where the smoke launchers are located fold outwards and reveals the missiles, that’s why i said it has 4 ready to fire

Well, it would be nice if Gaijin actually had a proper rulebook for vehicle implementation, because they seem to contradict themselves quite often such as with the AMX-30 Super that was brought up earlier in this thread.

Yeah I kind of forgot that the Lynx uses fold-out launchers, I guess that there probably isn’t a cannon-only version then.

i mean DF-105 was also part of this recently being added in 2 different countries

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Having played the KF41, if I actuslly mained a tech tree I would fight harder for my tree not to get a KF41 than the other way around.

It’s such a pos lol.

Doesn’t mean that people dont want it. Trust me people want vehilces even if they are bad just because its a part of the nation and their history of vehicles. The CV9030 in its current BR and state is easily the worst IFV at 9.3 yet i can tell you right now there a few swiss who want it on Germany.

Im short for time so im only gonna answer this for the time. Ive made my thoughts clear on the Mi-28A and T 80U. Both never should have been added. The Mi-28 could’ve been a Danish Fennec (wouldn’t have earned gaijin money because it offers nothing to the TT) as for the T 80U plenty of vehicles could’ve taken its place. Its seems very evident gaijin wanted people to but them together as it makes the most sense to add them like that. You’re also willingly ignoring the AHS which itself is also a trial vehicle. Which i have also stated should bw removed. You could leave sweden with only the 9.7 helicopters and then gaijin would never make money on them. Add eithwr a Norwegian or Swedish UH-60 which irl dont use hellfire but can mount them but only 4 missiles and people will still cry that they got missiles they dont use even if its a trash helicopter at 11.0 or 10.3 sweden animosity is a fairly prevalent thing but thats a whole other can of worms i have no interest in discussing.

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Forgot about that one, I don’t support its presence the same as any other copy paste trial vehicle.

All imported australian vehicles are in their developer nation. UK only has native developed australian vehicles, the f-111F doesnt count since it has officialy been stated to be only a pity F-111K replacement since that isnt able to be implemented but was requested.
Following all functions the australian KF41 goes to germany.

This is not true. There is no standard KF41.
Its only showed of as what is possible.
All current users/intrested.
Hungary,US,Australia,Italy have it modified to their specification. There is no standard KF41.

There are differences,but that doesnt out it into the UK tree. Australia had no hand in the development themself. Australia gave specificstion in the competition and every nation developed from there themself. The KF41 you have shown was developed and built in germany and then shipped to australia to compete.

That would apply, if they didnt ram SA and India randomly into the british tree.

Militarily there are soo many different better choices htere that could of been.

Now britain has a mig21 as its high tier premium and a T90 as its squadron vehicle

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ok guys, we have subtree!

can any Swiss aircraft expert bet that BR will be the Mirage III? I mean, Mirage IIIs are in a range between 10 (IIIC) and 10.7 (IIIA).

any info? weapons? something?

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The S70 will be higher than 10.7? its fuckin miles better than the mirage 3E which is 10.7 last I checked.

You also get one of if not hte best F18s now.

and hunters.

The F18’s are kinda in a weird spot rn for air the best 14.0 hornet is the MLU 2 since it has BOL as its only upside but in exchange it has useless CAS weapons making it pointless outside of air.

If the Americans get what they want which is BOL then they get the best CAS and BOL and both the Swiss and Finnish become the worst 14.0’s (well the worst is already the first Finnish F-18 lol)

Imo they should leave the hornets as they are now as it makes them good for their respective trees.

Gives germany more cas for GRB though.
Which combined now with the EF2000, Su22M4 (which aint that good but KH29Ts are) and the F18 its gonna stomp like mad.

I think the trees the vehicles are from should get the best ones TBH.

Like it was stupid for ages the best gripen was in the british tree.

Im talking about the Finnish MLU 2, the only hornet with BOL has the worst CAS, imo its a fair trade off

But the current also 14.0 hornet for Finland is the worst Hornet, no JHMCS and no CAS. Also no aim 120 C5.

The Swiss Hornet rn is on par with the US on3.

It is currently 10.3 on the devserver

This isnt gaijins fault but the bismark is gonna be basically dead on launch. The AI AA mega nerf plus the bismarks absolutely dreadful AA means it wont stsnd a chance against 9.3 jets flying 600mph and dropping multiple 1000kg+ bombs.

The CAS balancing is though. And i knew this would be an issue when we got to 6.0 and we hadnt even reached midway through ww1 battleships. This is even worse for the 8.7 ships that can have 9.7 jets.

9.0* jets, but the best jet bombers against naval targets in this range are 8.0 and 8.3.