Lets talk about the state of Germany

Because Gaijin…

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Well to be fair there is a difference in the weapons capability.
UHT → KHT meant that outer pylons were upgraded via the THOR package (for mounting extra rocket pods), and even extra PARS launchers were allowed as an option on those pylons.

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Ideally UHT should have only HOT and stingers at a much lower BR (around 10.0-10.7) and then KHT should be the 12.0-12.3 succesor.

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The king of bad decisions.

@Smin1080p_WT
We found sources that the Aim-9L/I can use smoke reduced engines.
What are our chances?
AIM-9L/I missing reduced smoke motor

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T.O. GR1F-16CJ-34-1-1 AVIONICS AND NONNUCLEAR WEAPONS DELIVERY FLIGHT MANUAL appears to be an export-restricted document. Proof of its declassification and that it is no longer export restricted are required as it is younger than 30 years, otherwise, we cannot use it: Source Material: Restrictions on Classified and Export Restricted information (“Military Restrictions”)

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It’s unclassified

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So, can the AIM-9L/I get a smokeless motor like the AIM-9M?

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“Unclassified” does not mean there is no export restriction. 1997 falls into the 30 year range, meaning it may still be export restricted. For this, the distribution statement is needed. It will have a rating (EG B, C, D, E etc)

Edit: It is in fact, still export restricted:

This will be down to the developers to decide, however the current source cannot be used without a clear distribution statement that it is not export restricted.

Tornado badly needs it, since it just got 2 missiles. Aim-9L gets flared too easily and also the Strike capability is just bad. So the Assta needs something to make it worth playing.

What I don’t get is: Why we don’t get an upgraded Tornado IDS with better AAMs? Ger Tornados used everything up to recent Iris-T, also several versions of the 9L-Li’s.

Better engines? There are some IDS’ with ECR engines, after ECRs and IDS’ roles got merged capability-wise.

BOZ-101 EC pods? With MAW sensors etc?
timthumb

Any chance of better ordnance which might be useful in GRB?

Brits have 3 TT Tornados already. And a fourth incoming. Where is our assta 3.X ?

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We have nothing remotely close currently to IRIS-T levels of missile performance in game.

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Germany over performing technology (as always)

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he talked about the tornado getting the AIM9L(I) or the AIM9L(I)-1

This would result in a BR increase. None of the 11.7 Tornados have IRCCM missiles currently.

the other option would be reduce the br of the tornados to be on par with the tornado mfg etc

its quite some time since you said you had some plans regard the weird br difference when they perform the exact same in air. But nothing realy happend yet

What about the upcoming Tornado Gr.4?

It’s for Britain - different talk

Its not 11.7. Its 12.3.

The GR.1 at 11.7 (the same as ASSTA 1.0) wont receive AIM-9M.

Will the F-4F ICE get the AIM-9L/I-1’s that it was said to be getting in its devblog, though?

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We know the IRIS-T is far from being added to the game but we need something other than crumbs. Britain gets a new Tornado with better capabilities while Germany just as well could have at the same time.
I honestly don’t have hope anymore. We ask for a better strike/CAS jet and all we get is a premium C&P variant of a subpar jet no one really uses and a modification for the IDS to get LJDAMS. We finally get GPS bombs after how many months of every other nation having them? Why couldn’t something so simple come at the same time?

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