Lets talk about the state of Germany

I know this is Wikipedia, but is this correct?
" The ASSTA 3 upgrade programme, started in 2008, will introduce support for the laser-targeted [Joint Direct Attack Munition] along with further software changes."
ASSTA1 not capable of using JDAM?
If so, why would they be adding it to the ASSTA1 and not just implementing ASSTA3?

Gaijin’s vendetta against adding stuff to Germany

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upon more research (chatgpt with references LOL) ASSTA3 was the FIRST variant able to use JDAMS.

Since everyone and their mother want to scream “but they didn’t use them” “that plane never actually had armament!” “You can’t add a UFO!” when adding a new weapon/vehicle.

But when it comes to adding something that won’t make a difference, people are okay with it?
Guess I can submit a bug report? But why would I want to do that when Germany doesn’t have ANY other JDAM vehicles?
Bug report resulting in the ASSTA3 variant? Unlikely.
bug report removing the JDAMs? Very likely. Now back to step 1.
Simply doesn’t make sense in the context of other vehicles/weapons added for other countries.

It got allready reported with sources from Panavia thenself that the ASSTA 1 cant use LJDAMs
Result: Not an Bug because nit good source
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rpyuib0O2LuE

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What the actual F***

Insane.

Its better though do you really want to grind another Tornado for a new bomb?

Would be alot eazyer for the future atleast…

But maybe they plan to add also an Mod for ASSTA 3 like the Jaguar GR.1A → Jaguar GR.1B

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Germanies final iteration of Tornado with full ECM, Taurus and IRIS-T will be very good.

Failing that Germany as of 2024 are procuring Brimstone for Typhoon.

Aka Tornado ASSTA 3.1

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Better? Maybe. But I would rather Gaijin implement a more viable platform to use JDAMs on.

The Typhoon is the answer, its just a question of when.

or the swiss F/A 18C , might come with actual stand off missles as well

Typhoons all nice, but gajin crippled it partialy with restricting Brimstones to laser guidance and will lose a lot of its potential as a result

Cool that the last 3 planes germany got are premium planes. Guess they dont add tech tree planes anymore for germany

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Yeah that’s pretty insane. This thread is also discussing it

I might actually grab it, I don’t have a CAS jet in my lineup but I heard the Tornado is a better grinder.

Gaijin once again ignored the needs of Germany’s Aviation Top Tier and opted for a copy-paste of a useless vehicle.

According to the dev server, we’re about to get an SU22M4 WTD61 as a premium vehicle. While I understand the reasoning behind saving effort and generating revenue with copy-paste additions for premium vehicles, I can’t accept the choice of a vehicle that doesn’t improve the current state.

German Aviation has long suffered from a lack of useful top-tier fighter and strike aircraft. We often hear remarks like “it’ll come in the next update,” “just wait a bit,” or “Germany has had its glory days.” However, we still lack high-quality aircraft with HMD-capable fighters, and strike aircraft with sufficient payload and fire-and-forget weapons.

Considering the effort-saving approach, Gaijin clearly has other choices:

  • F15 WTD61
  • TORNADO ASSTA2 (?)
  • …and several others
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Still no AMRAAM for F20… Only Sweden gets premium ARH… guess who is their favorite nation again? XD
Im still hoping, and holdin my money, for a premium Swiss F5E. Otherwise i would have to buy the Lazur. But im not fan of migs21. Between Lazur, Tornado and Su22, which is better for grind?

RU main with SU-27SM MiG-29SMT SU-34 and SU-25SM3
“US OP AMRAAM OP GAIJIN PLZ NERF US RUSSIA SUFFER!! Reeeeeeeeee!!!”
German pilot with Phantom fighting against F-15C SU-27SM F-16C and Gripen
“Sure, RU suffering try fight them with god damn Phantom you’ll know what suffering is”

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Blatantly OP F-4F ICE is funny.
Germany getting a more under-BR’d aircraft than American air is deeply hilarious.

As an F-20 owner I hope it stays this way.
F-20 was never even tested with AIM-120s let alone fitted with them.

Yes comrade, very happy that theres been 3 updates in a row with copy paste premium vehicles added and the only TT vehicle added was a mid tier SPAA

This is what we truly desire, premium after premium after premium
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