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Thanks for raising a report about the spall generation on the Leopard 2A5/6/7 series. This will require further review and study before its possible to answer. However its been passed to the developers for review: Community Bug Reporting System

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tanks not blowing up when the " external " internal fuel tanks are hit? russian spall liners? ??? that bias. pantsir? ka 50? 30km he missile?

so where are the spall liners in other nation vehicles?

like what vehicles?

He draws the wrong conclusions from the wrong experiments. Either out of ignorance or deliberately to confirm his own false statement. Modules eat the shrapnel and then he says the angle of spread is smaller. If he wants to show the truth he needs to shoot where a lot of empty space as in leopard case.

The t80 has the same spall cone as other mbt. And Relikt don’t help:

Leo 2a6





BVM without era





BVM with era



2a7 problem is that his hull spall liner has stopped working:

Same spall cone as 2a6


The turret spall liner is still working properly:

leopard without turret spall liner vs with turret spall liner

T90M hull spall liner is still work fine:

T90M (place without spall liner)


T90M (place with spall liner)


So if anyone wants to fix the leopards let them make a report about bug with leo hull spall liners. But that problem only for 2a7 and strv122. 2a4/5/6 don’t have problem with spall cone unless it’s a general bug with spall cones and than it is affecting all mbt.

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They are explosion/fire-proof.

Same as german or sweden ones.

in this image it dosent touch any other component and in fact goes against the side of a T90M without ERA modification
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How does this picture contradict what I said?

refering to this part here.

The spall liner was caught sleeping or something cuz it really isnt affecting the spall, specailly noticeable in the T80BVM test, max angle of spall the 2A6 got was 100 degrees meanwhile the T80BVM reaches a max angle of spall was 91 degrees with no spall liner, def something is wrong

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Are you kidding me? Open your eyes. Especially since I draw all the lines by eye. There could be a 3-6 degree error. There is no point in looking at the exact values.

This concept is flat out the standard to which all Western ground vehicle fuel cells have been built to since the 1970s.

To that same end, like how blowout doors are modeled, any perforation would allow a fuel fire to enter the crew compartment. Unless these tanks can instantly self seal, which no tank can IRL, there is no way for these to stop some of the explosion to exit through the tank perforation.

That is unless we want to make it so blowout panel doors are also blast proof from front on impacts.

ah right my bad, the images of the T80BVM are pretty tiny ngl, and still, shows the leopards spall liner isnt working correctly

Yea pretty much that. To declare russian fuel tanks inside the combat compartment to be ‘external’ tanks (lol^^) is hilarious. But it happened. Its like George Orwell’s 1982: 2 + 2 is not 4^^

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lol actually have a real life video of a 190 blowing up from the " external" fuel tank exploding gaijin is full of it.

I am fairly sure that is because they are not physically inside the crew compartment, but rather between the crew compartment and the outside of the tank.

In fact, you can see the exact same “exterior” fuel tanks on the Abrams.

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Honestly mate, if you are doing bad with the T-90A at 10.7, you are just bad ngl.

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You’ve got a below 1 - 1 K/D ratio in the T-90A, barely 50% winrate and you die in 85% of your games played.

As I’ve stated earlier in a different thread, the only people who believe the T-90A is any good are people that:

  • A) Never played it, and believe everything Russian must be OP.
    or
  • B) People who play it, but are new/very poor at the game and don’t yet understand what makes a good vehicle.

This rule has turned out to be true across the dozens of cases I’ve come across, and it’s turned out true here as well.

Obviously I’m not expecting great stats from you because as I said, the T-90A is among the worst high tier MBT’s in the entire game.

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Bet that he gave up it after try to lift the gun to the target.

People like you, that actually give a fuck about K/Ds and shit ingame, honestly make the community worse. Some people just like to play the game and have some fun.

As I have a personal life, I don’t really have time and nerves to bother with stats and tryharding the shit out of this game.

As you’re a little stats geek you probably think the 90A is bad just because you look at it’s soft stats. However you don’t consider the fact that the BR Range 10.0-11.0 is stacked with new people who just bought their first premium and are therefore completely garbo at the game and just shoot everything centermass. The T-90A comes in handy in this situation because you actually got some armor, which withstands DM23, DM33, M829, M829A1 and all the other rounds that linger around at that BR.

The tank itself may be worse then the other russian tanks like the B3, BVM, 90M and what not, but it definetetly isn’t the worst hight tier tank. Just look at the glass cannon ariete tank.

To conclude it, I just want to say:
How delusional has one to be, to seriously think that the T-90 belongs at the same BR as the 2A4 with DM23 and the base M1 Abrams with M774?
Would be somewhat reasonable if the 2A4 got the round it actually entered service with, DM33, but knowing gaijin that won’t happen.

Have a nice day tho :)
Keep the grind, the tryharding and the coping up.

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