Will most likely be slightly better than the Marder 1A3s acceleration
15 seconds vs 12 seconds to 50kph.
isn’t the begleitpanzer in a museum? Shouldn’t it be easy to get the hp of the engine?
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Its so Joever and we wont be Barack
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Nope, only one vehicle was built and was probably scrapped…
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ah ok then it was the marder 2
Ok so the reasoning according to tech mods is that because during the TAMs development a 600hp engine was used on the prototypes ,the Begleitpanzer 57 must have had the 600hp engine. They did post their secondary sources(janes) , but those same secondary sources ( Janes) in later editions of which I have in my possession all mention the Begleitpanzer using a 720hp engine.
The 720hp engine was used on all final production variants of the TAM/VCTP, the secondary sources of Janes they mention in that bug report predate the Janes sources I have and are based on the original concept or plans before the vehicle was tested
While yes the only 2 official primary sources from the companies involved in the project mention the 600hp those sources are still based on the original concept of the vehicle using a marder chassis both of those documents predate the actual built prototype that was tested. All later secondary sources going into the mid 80s claim the 720hp variant of the engine was used.
Also their policy of closing a bug report before the reporter can even reply back to their claim is horrendous and frustrating.
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i was reading it and came with the same conclusion the 600HP was refering to before the first Begleit was even build it was the first concepts on where the begleit was gonna be based on the marder hull but afterwards it was build on the latest versions of the TAM hull using the 720 hp engine
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Can you bug report it maybe we have a chance to reverse what Gaijin did
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I was trying too but they of course closed the bug report i submitted before allowing any replies , they really need to revert that policy its extremely frustrating .
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so where’s the apfsds round and helicopter warning system ? XD
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forgot the hot missles, the only feature that could be easily and reliably be added
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that’s what annoys me more than anything they revisit a vehicle to nerf it but don’t update it with other bug reports i.e missing ammo types etc
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Bro just straight up forgot about the Leopard 2A5 which dominated the tank meta for a long time, not to mention how meta-defining Germany is at the lower battle ratings.
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If we’re digging that far into the past, might as well mention how M1 & M1IP dominated top tier (and defined what aspects should be expected from future MBTs), how US was the only nation to get Bullpups/stand off weapons initially (and even today they’re still very potent, basically defining CAS at 8.7), how AH-1Z was the meta defining helicopter for a long time as well.
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I never said the 2A5 didn’t dominate just that it’s no longer relevant because practically everyone and their mother has one now. Also I’m specifically talking about top tier i never said anything about not dominating low tier. Also that isn’t entirely true . Germany does potentially dominate low tier and 6.7 but in between it’s kinda 50/50.
But either way Germany still has a pretty rough and bland top tier experience until you unlock the 2A7 and Germany top tier needs a ton of fleshing out ie new and better AA and some light tanks the PUMA does not cut it and should never have been moved to 10.0.
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The Leopard 2A4 came before the IPM1 and after the M1. At the time, it had a better gun/apfsds and armor than either vehicle.
Just pointing out that Germany gets plenty of love.
Germany still has the second best tanks in the game after Sweden. The US is in a much worse condition SPAA-wise than Germany. I am all for adding new things to Germany, but Germany has not been neglected by any stretch of the imagination.
It had what? At the time the difference between M774 & DM23 was lower than it is today, initially 2A4 had ~360mm KE on the turret & upper plate, M1IP came to the game with ~400mm on the turret.
So, we’re just ignoring that M1s opponents in 1.77 (or 1.79) were Leo 2K & T-64B (that had 3BM-22), M1IP was better than the 2A4 at the time (arguably speaking, so was M1 because it was just so stupidly hard to kill at the time).
Just pointing out that Germany gets plenty of love.
From time to time, yes. The air is basically the middile child though, ground is treated somewhat better recently.
That’s fair, but that’s mostly reflective of the IRL German air force - not because they want to ignore German players. I bet we will see the EuroFighter this year though.