Lets talk about the state of Germany

The point is about the modelling; a first, inner layer where the second module is installed in an overlapping manner. As of now, 2A7V is the only Leopard with correct structure.

Also check the KE effectiveness; it’s higher on 2A7V than it is on the others.

And again- check the volumetric values, not the “stat card” ones!

If we’re talking about the model itself, yes, it’s more accurate. However the topic is as stated, about the thickness of the module, which is not accurate.

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Should be 0.165 kg :P

Kinda funny.

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I wanted to correct the bug report but knowing how Gaijin is, let them first correct the stated thickness. You did the report about the side skirt thickness? Or you know if someone did it?. If not let me know and tomorrow ill do it

Thanks in advance

Probably 0.165 in the files but only 0.16 on the statcard

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Also:

Tape measure, they literally are 110mm. As such I dunno what bro is yapping about.

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YO!
Let’s go!

nah you need to have a manual with exact measurements and if it has? composite in it a detailed cut off

“without leaking documents”

honestly i’m impressed that you still try
but grateful for your trying to get leopards fixed :D

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xIiMf0NKeDBT

Remade the report…

Go figure. Can’t even talk to the guy because he doesn’t use the forum. Amazing.

Also, the “two layers” in question:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1181077093094805527/1213227169761722368/unknown.png?ex=65f4b4d9&is=65e23fd9&hm=5b508c64e9c44fc142bb15e715dbde0d7357738f5193f9f4a99fe5e9d577fd09&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1347&height=630

This guy SHOULD NOT be a tech mod.

They are totally equal, am I right? Not like the top layer thins out to about ~30mm so that the bottom skirt can go over it, but nooo, they are both 50mm! Trust me bro!

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Depressing, measuring armor thickness is not enough for them. They want the actual blueprints for the tank.

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i guess write david bowie, he is a higher tech mod if i understoof it right

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@_David_Bowie Hey mate, mind checking out this report?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xIiMf0NKeDBT

Vladuxa closed it, but he’s wrong about the skirts being 50 + 50, they should be 50mm + 110mm, with the top skirt thinning out to 30mm when the bottom skirt overlaps it, for a total of ~140mm + 20mm air gap. I included photos above.

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Omg these tech mods go from bad to worse…

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Now they broke the penetration of DM502?

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NOOOOO it can’t be

You seem to be ignoring the other stuff I said and instead focusing on the Taiwan thing.

Guys, seriously already.

CHECK. THE. VOLUMETRIC. VALUES. (Armor dimensions at point and effective thickness at impact angle 0º).

Leopard 2A7V’s skirts are perfectly fine. Before making tons of wrong bug reports and presumably calling me out as wrong, first make sure and double-check stuff, please.

Leopard 2A7V’s side skirts are flawlessly modelled. It’s the other Leopards that need correction.



@FurinaBestArchon @GodIno

If you switch out 50mm for 110m, sure. Inb4 you say “it’s just the dev server”, don’t - really just don’t, the last two times that happened, you know… PSO & 2A7V armour models. Also the comment made by vlad makes me think they will lower the volumetric thickness of the lower skirt as well, just so they can be 50 + 50.

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Volumetric armor pieces never have the true armor as set value.

Challenger 2’s turret base is stated as 38mm thick, yet it’s 51mm thick in most areas. Many cast pieces are set as 50mm thick yet reach up to 150mm thick.

The “value” in the “statcard sense” is meaningless. The one that matters is the volumetric one you get when you point the cursor at the piece.