Lets talk about the state of Germany

How exactly is that strong?
The F-4F is outright the worst platform for that among all nations in game currently

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Exactly, it’s gonna be limited to standard AIM-9L.
There is the AIM-9L/I but Gaijin hasn’t even given that to the Tornado which literally has 2 missiles max.

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But on a F4 airframe will it go to top tier? I think it will be a AMRAAM carrier at 12.3. Or something in that line.

most likey along side the other 3rd gen fox carriers

Gaijin will use the excuse that it has AMRAAMs and therefore cannot be placed lower

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same BR as an f15
laugh 3

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Accurate reaction

Most likely they will fit it with Aim-9M considering rails and FCS is more then capable of using.

what could the f4f ice carry in terms of air to ground?

Apparently still just the 2 Mavericks, although @dotEXCEL made a report for the Pavespike targeting pod for guiding GBU-10s missing from the F-4F Late but that sadly went nowhere

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People said the same about Mig-29 SMT and EJ Kai, but both are still extremely competitive aircraft.

@Karmafelds
IRIS-T would make F-4F ICE 13.7 minimum. Just as AIM-9Ms make 9.7 Harriers 11.7.

@NoodleCup31
F-4F ICE/EJ Kai aren’t the worst afterburning platform 11.7 or higher. J-8F and JH-7A are.
And J-8F is doing perfectly find despite being the worst platform to put Python 3’s on.

yeah classic gaijin :-(

Remember when goofy devs claimed 100g weight of PMC 287 is after the sabot’s removed from the equation, and we told them it’s wrong and it should be at least ~160g back on the old forum?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1181077093094805527/1205291124105945118/slide-44.png?ex=65d7d5d5&is=65c560d5&hm=3106a40d6c63ef8172050bd77976aa42667f4f7ad546df4403da2c2e194e4601&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1126&height=843

Here y’all go. It’s in fact 165g. Primary evidence as well.

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credits to @UnHolySausage for finding it

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ended up finding this by accident funny enough i was going around checking trough the oerlikon 30 and 35 mm shells

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300+ pages of arguing with smin, the good old days

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Do you have the full source on hand or just the single page?

i do have the sources

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Many thanks

bug report it so it gets acknowledged this time

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