Lets talk about the state of Germany

Hmm… I guess I didn’t underline my point very well. So I clarify:
In my opinion national tech trees should consist out of vehicles that were in domestic use. I might add that I’m fine with prototypes that were considered for service for the sake of filling the gaps like the MBT-70/KPz-70 for instance. I don’t agree to add vehicles (not even as premium/event vehics) that were never (I’ll rephrase) fielded by a nation. Italy produced the G.91 and Germany adopted it, therefore it’s justified to have it in the German TT. On the contrary I don’t think it’s justified to have the TAM as Germany never had plans to adopt it. Again, that’s just my opinion.
I didn’t mention it explicitly, but I also disagree with the addition of the Hungarians in the Italian TT. I refered to this by suggesting a European TT, so the Rheinmetal plant in Hungary is irrelevant. Some of the vehicles you mention are those I meant when I wrote they shouldn’t exist in the first place.

And now the point I wanted to intended to say: Gaijin alreay added several vehicles to different tech trees under different pretext. Like the SK-105/JaPz K. as I mentioned. This vehicle in particual is especially interesting because it has nothing to do with Germany at all, but they added it nevertheless. So there is no reason they shouldn’t give the KF41 Germany as well as Italy when they decide to add the Hungarian sub-tree there.

It’s definitely a shame that Gaijin is so sluggish to add vehicles and/or features/weaponry to certain nations, sure. But was I meant to say was that the problem should be tackled at once, or at least nation by nation within a short period of time to streamline the techtrees and not just a single nation.

I didn’t question the nationality of the vehicle, I question the eligibilty to be in a nations TT. In my opinion they should be in which country they were actually fielded, but I explained this in my last post.

Sorry, I must’ve misunderstood what you were saying. A lot of other people in another thread were saying KF41 shouldn’t go to Germany because “It’s not german, it was only built by a german company”, so I initially thought you were one of them, never-mind then.

The pipebomb incident lol

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we need hero

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All of us are heroes, it is time that we life up to it, together. UNITED.

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More armored Leopard 2s being added this year.
Already have PUMA & there are KF platform prototype options.
Takes time to develop.

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Literally just a 2A5 Sidegrade with a situational dozer, while the additional front armor is being withheld.

Half-baked and incomplete, being denied its Spike missiles.

A brand new Nation gets it first despite the vehicle being built and tested on German Soil. And nobody knows when germany will get theirs. Maybe another 3-4 years from now? With barely half the features of the upcoming KF41?

And don’t get me started about Maus and the 3 others.

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You don’t know that since the more armored Leopard 2s aren’t announced yet.
Await the news for October & December updates.
PUMA without SPIKEs is a legitimate variant.
It doesn’t take 3 years to develop ground vehicles anymore.
Patience, Rich.

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Why did the PSO take around 4 years then and does not even receive all its features still, like the additional front armor instead of the dozer blade? It’s a real, historically accurrate and legitimate feature. I doubt they will ever address this, just like the Leclercs for france don’t get their proper NERA instead of the ERA. Or that frontal armor fixed. We aren’t talking about the Russian TT, where things actually get addressed and no vehicles taken from us players.

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its not a state, its a republic.

Only if KF-51

State means situation in this context. Read the title as “Let’s talk about the situation of Germany”. I know you are joking/sarcastic, but I am a bureaucrat now, literally.

You dont get points per post, fyi.

Smart talking neither tho

F-4F ICE would have AIM9Li, not AIM9M and I highly doubt it would be 12.7 with just AIM-120B

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This is exactly what Gaijin would do with a German Vehicle.

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You mean just how they’ve kept Leopard I seriously undertiered for who knows how long ?

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It can take 9Ms, so it may very well take them.

Or instead of creating another franken-jet, give it 9Li or 9Li-1’s that Germany designed and produced at home (BGT) instead of the 9Ms that US refused to sell them. It’d pretty much be just a name change anyways since 9Li was made to perform the same or better than the 9M.

Of course they’d make sure no vehicles are OP.

Meanwhile US and Russia being OP during most of AirRB existence: “Am I a joke to you?”

or perhaps the other IR missile the ICE carried
IRIS-T

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