Lets talk about the state of Germany

So no problem just adding switz planes to germany as well, doesnt need to be a sub air tree

No, because sub-trees aren’t dedicated tank lines. Sub-tree are strange lines of various types of vehicles.
Else we might as well ignore the vast majority of the ZA sub-tree, no?

So what if new players wouldn’t be more likely to pick Switzerland over ‘major’ countries? People can switch??

As if Gaijin is beyond adding ahistorical loadouts or airframes, I’m sure the Japanese have a lot of documentation on the AJ.
Even if we ignore that it is still a big boohoo moment if Germany lacks in a single category of their tree and lacking is very, very relative since they have some of the most capable airframes such as MiG-29.

That very much depends on what one considers local development.
I for one think Hungary is finely represented while Finland is lacking a fair amount of stuff atm.

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They’re saying there’s no air-line cus SA hasn’t got enough dedicated aircraft to make one, but would have if they had.

Smin said so himself, no new rule was made or broken.

tl;dr, you made it up that 5th line is sub-tree dedicated lol.

Such at the Pz.87 that would automatically sit at 10.3 and the upgrades to it…?

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Literally in the same sentence he said there’s no space…?
5 lines is the current limit because of game/engine limitations, it’s not some made up argument xd

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Did you skip this in the Simn quote?

“Not enough space for one.” Let’s see what UK air got that makes it so there is not enough space? oh, wait 5 lines.

Switzerland yet again bringing out the goofiest of arguments.
If Switzerland doesn’t become independent then it should be shared between France and Germany.

Because it going only to Germany just because doesn’t make sense. Especially because it would lock France from getting vehicles that would fill gaps otherwise extremely hard to fill.

Like just because I’m asking for Swiss ground vehicles for France doesn’t mean I’m opposed to Swiss air vehicles for Germany. But getting resistance means I’m going to be resistant to Swiss vehicles going to Germany like the Mirage IIIS.

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Surely the Finnish aviation sub-tree must be stuffed with unique aircraft in order to be added and it doesn’t have anything to do with space /s

How do you know that ?

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That’s just special pleading. Those lines do not have to be full of MBTs, because they serve to support the entire TT. In case of Switzerland being independent, what would those vehicles be supporting between the Pz.61/68 and Pz.87?

A whole lot of nothing.

So what if new players wouldn’t be more likely to pick Switzerland over ‘major’ countries? People can switch??

Then you get a tech tree that is unpopular (see Israel). Switzerland makes sense being a sub-tree.

Even if we ignore that it is still a big boohoo moment if Germany lacks in a single category of their tree and lacking is very, very relative since they have some of the most capable airframes such as MiG-29.

Ah here we go, that’s what I was waiting for. You’ve completely forgotten the original point I presented, haven’t you?

"German air TT is basically DOA as of today, while MiG-29G is still good, give or take ~6 months and it will be power creeped (I mean, it already is with Su-27…)."

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Tell me again, what low tier stuff got added this update?

Too little

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I haven’t, but it’s clear that they’re not opposed to adding SA aircraft (sub-tree vehicles don’t have to sit in a separate line after all). BT-42, or Bosvark or Jas-39C prove it.

Same would happen with Swiss aircraft, they would simply be added after the F-4F and other jets in the line.

It’s unsurprising that low tier stuff gets skipped out in a top tier dedicated update that isn’t representative of the general picture…

yep, thats the point xD, its not worth for gajin, there is no cash there

What that has to do with anything ?
In the update Kings of Battle, exactly zero (0) top tier ground vehicles have been added, so what now ?

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Ok, here is the deal a Sub-tree needs a dedicated line. See all sub-trees. The rightmost line is only for Sub-nations tech.

Germany, US and USSR do not have room for a dedicated sub-tree line and in turn no room for a Sub-tree.

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Present the rule where it states a sub-tree needs a dedicated line. I’ll wait.

Indeed. This update needed more WW2.

All this update did was bring more grind just for the one (non-WW2) vehicle I want.

Because BR gaps are so unheard of even in major countries /s

Unlike Israel the Swiss wouldn’t be stuffed with Magach spam while missing out on some of their most unique things or an entire weapons system that is critical for their ground vehicles while other trees do receive it (Spike).
Israel is relatively unpopular due to it’s lack of variety, which wouldn’t be an issue for Switzerland.

And this changes…?
If you were so desperate to wish for foreign aircraft to buff out your own tree, then why not look at nations that generally fit better while also not infringing on potential independent candidates.
Denmark isn’t formally part of anything yet has an F-16 that could buff out what’s necessary for Germany.

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